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Lower step 1?
#21
(11-19-2018, 06:45 AM)Guest Wrote:
(07-25-2018, 06:13 PM)Guest Wrote:
(07-25-2018, 04:40 PM)Guest Wrote:
(07-25-2018, 10:18 AM)Guest Wrote:
(07-24-2018, 10:04 PM)Guest Wrote: I think last year they didn't interview anyone under a 240

How does this change if I'm a DO student in the high 240s?

High 240s means you're dead average for neurosurgery. Most DO's who succeed in the ACGME match are well above the competition in terms of their stats (260s, many publications, etc.)

I appreciate everyones advice and insight on this topic. One last question: with my score being average for neurosurgery, would it be wise/advantageous to take step 2 prior to submitting applications (and miss out on doing a sub-I in July), or wait to take it later in the fall? The way I see it is that a great step 2 score can help, but that means missing out on a potential sub-I where I may get a letter of recommendation.

Im a DO applicant with high 240s this year. Got 16 interviews. its an uphill battle but not impossible for us

How many publications? (First authored and total)
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#22
http://www.nrmp.org/interactive-charting...the-match/


Check out the raw stats on DO applicants/match rate here. The numbers don't lie.

(11-20-2018, 01:30 PM)Guest Wrote: http://www.nrmp.org/interactive-charting...the-match/


Check out the raw stats on DO applicants/match rate here. The numbers don't lie.

In 2018, only 2 US Senior DO's matched and both were 240+
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#23
(07-24-2018, 02:31 PM)Guest Wrote:
(07-24-2018, 01:16 PM)Guest Wrote:
(07-24-2018, 10:10 AM)Guest Wrote: how bad is a 240?

To be honest i'm surprised you're still alive

<230: chances are slim unless you're an MD-PhD from a top program
230-235: still possible, need papers, good away performances
235-240: decent shot, will probably match
240-250: good chance of matching
250+: redundant, maybe programs like Stanford or Cleveland Clinic who have strict Step cutoffs will invite you

What is the Stanford strict cut off?
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#24
(03-13-2019, 11:47 PM)bearintraining Wrote:
(07-24-2018, 02:31 PM)Guest Wrote:
(07-24-2018, 01:16 PM)Guest Wrote:
(07-24-2018, 10:10 AM)Guest Wrote: how bad is a 240?

To be honest i'm surprised you're still alive

<230: chances are slim unless you're an MD-PhD from a top program
230-235: still possible, need papers, good away performances
235-240: decent shot, will probably match
240-250: good chance of matching
250+: redundant, maybe programs like Stanford or Cleveland Clinic who have strict Step cutoffs will invite you

What is the Stanford strict cut off?

None of this is real. There are no cutoffs. Don’t be a douche and if you’re what they want you’ll get an Interview
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#26
And if you have a 260/260, PhD, from a school with a good NSG department, and stand out on your subIs, you pick your program. I know. I did.
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#27
(03-14-2019, 08:36 AM)Guest Wrote: And if you have a 260/260, PhD, from a school with a good NSG department, and stand out on your subIs, you pick your program. I know. I did.

True I think the likelihood that you get a decent shot at programs and have your choice is higher, but in my experience the PhD thing wasn’t as strong as the school name thing. This last year the people who really took the trail by storm did not have PhDs. That is to say that every year they want different things.
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#28
Social media influencer = the new PhD
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#29
You don’t need to lead the interview parade when you get to pick your program.

To OP, low Step Ones happen. Persevere. Manage expectations.
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#30
High steps matter. They are EVERYTHING. All that matters is step 1.
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