Drinking on trail

[Guest]

Our interview dinner night is a lot like rushing a fraternity. There are a lot of dudes who have no shot at a bid, but we play nice. The real bros get invited to the a-bar and have to do shots and pledge their allegiance to our program. We then make them take shots and slam beers until the first dude pukes, then he's out. Keep going. Ass beers. Ookie cookie. At the end of the night, we all strip down and go for a swim.

[Guest]

(08-02-2018, 09:33 PM)Guest Wrote: Our interview dinner night is a lot like rushing a fraternity.  There are a lot of dudes who have no shot at a bid, but we play nice.  The real bros get invited to the a-bar and have to do shots and pledge their allegiance to our program.  We then make them take shots and slam beers until the first dude pukes, then he's out.  Keep going.  Ass beers. Ookie cookie. At the end of the night, we all strip down and go for a swim.

Glad to know our program isn't the only one forcing the ookie cookie. Keep doing good work out there bros.

[Guest]

Truthfully - no one cares. Drink a responsible amount and don't show up to the interview with a hang over. The residents will probably drink more because this is the only time we really all get to hang out together. If you do not match or do not get ranked by a program, it likely has nothing to do with whether or not you had a beer or whiskey drink.

Remember, all of you guys are smart. Most programs are looking for responsible candidates with good judgment and who know their own limit. Also, if you have an interview, your steps scores now mean as much as that cocktail napkin you just put your drink on - be normal and do not be a pompous dick.

- Advice from a resident

[Focus]

agree. It's free for us and we already have jobs so we are likely going to eat and drink as much as we can handle.

[Guest]

(10-17-2018, 01:06 AM)Guest Wrote: Truthfully - no one cares. Drink a responsible amount and don't show up to the interview with a hang over. The residents will probably drink more because this is the only time we really all get to hang out together. If you do not match or do not get ranked by a program, it likely has nothing to do with whether or not you had a beer or whiskey drink.

Remember, all of you guys are smart. Most programs are looking for responsible candidates with good judgment and who know their own limit. Also, if you have an interview, your steps scores now mean as much as that cocktail napkin you just put your drink on - be normal and do not be a pompous dick.

- Advice from a resident

I second this as a resident. Drink whatever amount you can drink without it compromising your judgement or leading to poor decisions. Unless you are a heavy drinker and that number is really high. Certainly pounding down drinks when no one else is will come off as concerning. Neurosurgery has a history of rampant alcoholism/substance abuse and people are sensitive to that fact. On the other hand some people might think you are a little uptight if you dont drink at all.

[Guest]

(11-11-2018, 01:17 PM)Guest Wrote:

(10-17-2018, 01:06 AM)Guest Wrote: Truthfully - no one cares. Drink a responsible amount and don't show up to the interview with a hang over. The residents will probably drink more because this is the only time we really all get to hang out together. If you do not match or do not get ranked by a program, it likely has nothing to do with whether or not you had a beer or whiskey drink.

Remember, all of you guys are smart. Most programs are looking for responsible candidates with good judgment and who know their own limit. Also, if you have an interview, your steps scores now mean as much as that cocktail napkin you just put your drink on - be normal and do not be a pompous dick.

- Advice from a resident

I second this as a resident. Drink whatever amount you can drink without it compromising your judgement or leading to poor decisions. Unless you are a heavy drinker and that number is really high. Certainly pounding down drinks when no one else is will come off as concerning. Neurosurgery has a history of rampant alcoholism/substance abuse and people are sensitive to that fact. On the other hand some people might think you are a little uptight if you dont drink at all.

I'm an alcoholic, and no longer drink. Are you saying not drinking will come off in a negative way?

[Guest]

In your situation, please don’t drink on the interview trail. It’s not that big of a deal.

If a program truly doesn’t rank you because you didn’t drink at their dinner, then that program probably isn’t a good fit.

I really don’t thinking drinking versus not drinking is that big of a deal at most interviews.

[Guest]

(11-11-2018, 04:21 PM)Guest Wrote:

(11-11-2018, 01:17 PM)Guest Wrote:

(10-17-2018, 01:06 AM)Guest Wrote: Truthfully - no one cares. Drink a responsible amount and don't show up to the interview with a hang over. The residents will probably drink more because this is the only time we really all get to hang out together. If you do not match or do not get ranked by a program, it likely has nothing to do with whether or not you had a beer or whiskey drink.

Remember, all of you guys are smart. Most programs are looking for responsible candidates with good judgment and who know their own limit. Also, if you have an interview, your steps scores now mean as much as that cocktail napkin you just put your drink on - be normal and do not be a pompous dick.

- Advice from a resident

I second this as a resident. Drink whatever amount you can drink without it compromising your judgement or leading to poor decisions. Unless you are a heavy drinker and that number is really high. Certainly pounding down drinks when no one else is will come off as concerning. Neurosurgery has a history of rampant alcoholism/substance abuse and people are sensitive to that fact. On the other hand some people might think you are a little uptight if you dont drink at all.

I'm an alcoholic, and no longer drink. Are you saying not drinking will come off in a negative way?

No one would be offended or care if you do not drink. Just be normal in all other aspects and things will be fine

[Guest]

(11-11-2018, 05:51 PM)Guest Wrote:

(11-11-2018, 04:21 PM)Guest Wrote:

(11-11-2018, 01:17 PM)Guest Wrote:

(10-17-2018, 01:06 AM)Guest Wrote: Truthfully - no one cares. Drink a responsible amount and don't show up to the interview with a hang over. The residents will probably drink more because this is the only time we really all get to hang out together. If you do not match or do not get ranked by a program, it likely has nothing to do with whether or not you had a beer or whiskey drink.

Remember, all of you guys are smart. Most programs are looking for responsible candidates with good judgment and who know their own limit. Also, if you have an interview, your steps scores now mean as much as that cocktail napkin you just put your drink on - be normal and do not be a pompous dick.

- Advice from a resident

I second this as a resident. Drink whatever amount you can drink without it compromising your judgement or leading to poor decisions. Unless you are a heavy drinker and that number is really high. Certainly pounding down drinks when no one else is will come off as concerning. Neurosurgery has a history of rampant alcoholism/substance abuse and people are sensitive to that fact. On the other hand some people might think you are a little uptight if you dont drink at all.

I'm an alcoholic, and no longer drink. Are you saying not drinking will come off in a negative way?

No one would be offended or care if you do not drink. Just be normal in all other aspects and things will be fine

most attendings will not feel comfortable with a vegetarian or non-drinker as a resident. u can fake it with a coke with a lime i guess

[Guest]

agree with the above. the non-drinker/veg is is viewed as self-righteous and judgemental.