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#31
(05-18-2021, 10:11 AM)Guest Wrote:
(05-18-2021, 01:57 AM)Guest Wrote:
(05-18-2021, 01:01 AM)Guest Wrote: 1/4 did a sub-i there last year

sub-i's weren't allowed last year.. right?

Correct. Last year is a bad example. They were very open at the interview about how the lack of sub-i's made this a challenging year for them. Since they (a) don't really have an affiliated med school and (b) care a lot more about fit, doing a sub-I at BNI makes a huge difference.

That being said, they're still limited this year so if you didn't get the sub-i and you drink the BNI or bust koolaid, don't lose hope

sub-i's aren't really limited this year. maybe one less month than usual, but that might not even be true since you can start in mid-June, and I think they have sub-i's going all the way through october or something.

in previous years, was a sub-i practically mandatory at the Barrow?
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#32
rumor has it they have like 8 students for july, aug, sept, oct
so thats a total of 32!
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#33
What kind of step 1s do people getting Sub-i have here?

I'm sure the higher (> 250) improves chances, but are 240s realistically considered for Sub-is here if they have strong app otherwise?
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#34
does anyone who how barrow will chose sub-interns now that step 1 is pass/fail? thank u all
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#35
Probably the same way every other program will.
LOR, word-of-mouth, school reputation, research, AOA, athleticism
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#36
(05-18-2021, 11:51 PM)Guest Wrote: rumor has it they have like 8 students for july, aug, sept, oct
so thats a total of 32!

There is only like 300 something people who even apply nsgy a year and we are limited to one away so that would mean 10% of all applicants are doing their subI there. Seems like a lot.
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#37
(05-30-2021, 10:46 AM)Guest Wrote:
(05-18-2021, 11:51 PM)Guest Wrote: rumor has it they have like 8 students for july, aug, sept, oct
so thats a total of 32!

There is only like 300 something people who even apply nsgy a year and we are limited to one away so that would mean 10% of all applicants are doing their subI there. Seems like a lot.

It is a lot. But since we're limited to one away, and there are only 300 people applying, and probably an average of ~20+ available spots at the top programs from June through Sept/Oct, I bet the vast majority of applicants will be doing their only sub-i at the top 15-20 programs (whatever 'top' means), and there will probably be 80-90 programs that don't fill all their available sub-i positions. 

On the other hand, it probably means you have a relatively good chance of getting into a program you do a sub-i at if it's not one of the handful that are saturated with applicants. Imagine doing a sub-i at a mediocre program and being literally the only person in the country to rotate through there this cycle. Couldn't possibly be in a better position as long as you do a great job on the sub-i. Crazy dynamics.
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#38
(05-30-2021, 03:11 PM)Guest Wrote:
(05-30-2021, 10:46 AM)Guest Wrote:
(05-18-2021, 11:51 PM)Guest Wrote: rumor has it they have like 8 students for july, aug, sept, oct
so thats a total of 32!

There is only like 300 something people who even apply nsgy a year and we are limited to one away so that would mean 10% of all applicants are doing their subI there. Seems like a lot.

It is a lot. But since we're limited to one away, and there are only 300 people applying, and probably an average of ~20+ available spots at the top programs from June through Sept/Oct, I bet the vast majority of applicants will be doing their only sub-i at the top 15-20 programs (whatever 'top' means), and there will probably be 80-90 programs that don't fill all their available sub-i positions. 

On the other hand, it probably means you have a relatively good chance of getting into a program you do a sub-i at if it's not one of the handful that are saturated with applicants. Imagine doing a sub-i at a mediocre program and being literally the only person in the country to rotate through there this cycle. Couldn't possibly be in a better position as long as you do a great job on the sub-i. Crazy dynamics.

well shit I’m tempted to drop my subI spot lol. Do they normally
Have 8 subIs per month?? Why increase it so much from prior years? Also
How are people doing their only away in September or October like how will you get a letter of rec which you need since it’s your only away?? This cycle is going to be a shit show
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#39
(05-30-2021, 05:51 PM)Guest Wrote:
(05-30-2021, 03:11 PM)Guest Wrote:
(05-30-2021, 10:46 AM)Guest Wrote:
(05-18-2021, 11:51 PM)Guest Wrote: rumor has it they have like 8 students for july, aug, sept, oct
so thats a total of 32!

There is only like 300 something people who even apply nsgy a year and we are limited to one away so that would mean 10% of all applicants are doing their subI there. Seems like a lot.

It is a lot. But since we're limited to one away, and there are only 300 people applying, and probably an average of ~20+ available spots at the top programs from June through Sept/Oct, I bet the vast majority of applicants will be doing their only sub-i at the top 15-20 programs (whatever 'top' means), and there will probably be 80-90 programs that don't fill all their available sub-i positions. 

On the other hand, it probably means you have a relatively good chance of getting into a program you do a sub-i at if it's not one of the handful that are saturated with applicants. Imagine doing a sub-i at a mediocre program and being literally the only person in the country to rotate through there this cycle. Couldn't possibly be in a better position as long as you do a great job on the sub-i. Crazy dynamics.

well shit I’m tempted to drop my subI spot lol. Do they normally
Have 8 subIs per month?? Why increase it so much from prior years? Also
How are people doing their only away in September or October like how will you get a letter of rec which you need since it’s your only away?? This cycle is going to be a shit show
I guess people would rather just go all-out and get the best possible chance at getting into that program even if it means they lose out on a letter of rec for their entire application.

It's insane actually. Could easily tank your app to not have a letter of rec from an away rotation. No one should do a sub-i that ends after September. Non-strategic prestige-chasers is my guess lol
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#40
(05-30-2021, 06:17 PM)Guest Wrote:
(05-30-2021, 05:51 PM)Guest Wrote:
(05-30-2021, 03:11 PM)Guest Wrote:
(05-30-2021, 10:46 AM)Guest Wrote:
(05-18-2021, 11:51 PM)Guest Wrote: rumor has it they have like 8 students for july, aug, sept, oct
so thats a total of 32!

There is only like 300 something people who even apply nsgy a year and we are limited to one away so that would mean 10% of all applicants are doing their subI there. Seems like a lot.

It is a lot. But since we're limited to one away, and there are only 300 people applying, and probably an average of ~20+ available spots at the top programs from June through Sept/Oct, I bet the vast majority of applicants will be doing their only sub-i at the top 15-20 programs (whatever 'top' means), and there will probably be 80-90 programs that don't fill all their available sub-i positions. 

On the other hand, it probably means you have a relatively good chance of getting into a program you do a sub-i at if it's not one of the handful that are saturated with applicants. Imagine doing a sub-i at a mediocre program and being literally the only person in the country to rotate through there this cycle. Couldn't possibly be in a better position as long as you do a great job on the sub-i. Crazy dynamics.

well shit I’m tempted to drop my subI spot lol. Do they normally
Have 8 subIs per month?? Why increase it so much from prior years? Also
How are people doing their only away in September or October like how will you get a letter of rec which you need since it’s your only away?? This cycle is going to be a shit show
I guess people would rather just go all-out and get the best possible chance at getting into that program even if it means they lose out on a letter of rec for their entire application.

It's insane actually. Could easily tank your app to not have a letter of rec from an away rotation. No one should do a sub-i that ends after September. Non-strategic prestige-chasers is my guess lol

Also insane considering the barrow isn’t for everyone. You’re putting a lot of eggs in a basket that you won’t know if you want until after. Amazing program, but I didn’t rank it in my top 10. There’s so much hype, I think ppl forget to look for what’s personally best for them
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