Machine learning research in med school

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(05-06-2021, 04:37 PM)Guest Wrote:

(05-04-2021, 07:08 PM)drstrange Wrote: The likelihood that you will be the first author on an ML project with only a couple of summers to work and no background as an MS1 is slim-to-none. These projects are big, high-risk undertakings that will involve a decent-sized team of people. The senior grad student or postdoc heading the project will undoubtedly get the first authorship and you'll be buried in the middle.

I would personally go for option number #2 and try to head up a project of your own that you will be able to talk about at length. It really does not take long during an interview to figure out if someone was a hanger-on for a project or if they were integrally involved.

Take this advice or leave it. I'm a co-PI on a project with an NIH grant and a patent involving ML for a neurosurgical application, but I'm also an anonymous internet troll so who knows?

Thank you for this reply. I have first-authored a few basic science publications so I kind of know the hang of it. Even a negative result can be spun to a presentation/poster. This is what I was thinking of doing. 

I did not realize that a first-author publication would make such a big difference. 

I will probably speak to both of them, and inquire about a small side project. I can put in 10 hours/week while in med school, and of course, 50+/week on holidays/summer.  

Thank you again. 

Also, if I may ask, but the aggressive tone in the last sentence? I noticed that such language is common here, is it common amongst neurosurgeons?

Thank you again.

It's more common on neurosurgery hub in general. A lot of unprovoked attacking. Well, provoked if you consider "saying something I disagreed with" as a provocation

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Let me add - this user's reply wasn't really aggressive, just some sarcasm. There is worse on this website however

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(05-06-2021, 05:43 PM)Guest Wrote:

(05-06-2021, 04:37 PM)Guest Wrote:

(05-04-2021, 07:08 PM)drstrange Wrote: The likelihood that you will be the first author on an ML project with only a couple of summers to work and no background as an MS1 is slim-to-none. These projects are big, high-risk undertakings that will involve a decent-sized team of people. The senior grad student or postdoc heading the project will undoubtedly get the first authorship and you'll be buried in the middle.

I would personally go for option number #2 and try to head up a project of your own that you will be able to talk about at length. It really does not take long during an interview to figure out if someone was a hanger-on for a project or if they were integrally involved.

Take this advice or leave it. I'm a co-PI on a project with an NIH grant and a patent involving ML for a neurosurgical application, but I'm also an anonymous internet troll so who knows?

Thank you for this reply. I have first-authored a few basic science publications so I kind of know the hang of it. Even a negative result can be spun to a presentation/poster. This is what I was thinking of doing. 

I did not realize that a first-author publication would make such a big difference. 

I will probably speak to both of them, and inquire about a small side project. I can put in 10 hours/week while in med school, and of course, 50+/week on holidays/summer.  

Thank you again. 

Also, if I may ask, but the aggressive tone in the last sentence? I noticed that such language is common here, is it common amongst neurosurgeons?

Thank you again.

It's more common on neurosurgery hub in general. A lot of unprovoked attacking. Well, provoked if you consider "saying something I disagreed with" as a provocation

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Let me add - this user's reply wasn't really aggressive, just some sarcasm. There is worse on this website however

Do you have recommendations on the research option? I am still debating. I talked to the basic-science guy and he seems a bit rude.

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