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Neurosurgery with no neuro research
#11
(06-11-2021, 12:59 AM)Neurosurgeon PD Wrote: Sorry OP but neurosurgery is not a dumping ground for anyone who can't get into another other specialty; we are not family medicine or peds or OB. If you want to have a chance you will have to put in a few years of work. A PhD doesn't mean anything unless its in a real subject like math, biomedical engineering, mol biology, or some other hard science. And even then, if only from a well-respected program. 

A PhD in obese women dysphoria from Howard University doesn't cut it, sorry. 

OP seems like the guy who feels entitled to get what he wants, when he wants. No concern for the guys who put in the work.
Lol who hurt you? OP do what you want and forget these two wankers. If you believe it is what you want to do, then follow it.
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#12
Can we get a participation trophy for respondent? Programs look for the talent. Early starters certainly have some advantage as they have more time to curate a CV but bright folks with strong research skills and good LORs will do well in the Match. OP should not fret but work closely with the local PD to prepare for SubIs and work on the CV now.
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#13
How is the troll radar on this forum so bad
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#14
(06-11-2021, 12:26 AM)Angry Med Student Wrote:
(06-10-2021, 11:32 PM)Guest Wrote:
(06-10-2021, 10:54 PM)Angry Med student Wrote:
(06-10-2021, 10:47 PM)Guest Wrote:
(06-10-2021, 09:50 PM)Neurosurgeon to be Wrote: So why did you all of a sudden decide to go into NS? It looks to me like you feel entitled to NS. Lots of people have put in a lot of effort into meeting PDs and attending NS conferences and contributing to the field. And now you feel entitled to take away a spot because you "changed your mind." This is completely outrageous. We need dedicated people, not entitled guys who don't put in the work. 

Sorry bud, stick to family medicine.

So you just want to take someone's spot? Someone who worked harder than you? Who contributed to the field? Sorry, doesn't work that way.

lol... are you an angry resident or med student?


Med student. I spent the past 3 years--and 4 years in college--preparing to be a neurosurgeon, doing research in the field, shadowing, building up connections, attending conferences, getting the scores, etc. And now this guy just want to walk in and take my spot??

Go to general surgery or something. Sorry buddy but people like myself come first. we put in the work, gained the experience, gained the expertise, and contributed to the field. and to get pushed aside by some "late bloomer" who coulden't be bothered to put in any work is truly an insult. it shouldn't work that way. 

To the OP: You had better go into some other specialty that values directionless individuals. NS is a field that values hard work and dedication.

This is really rich for a med student yet to match in the field, and displays an attitude that I wouldn't want in a co-resident. You haven't a clue what "NS" is "as a field" as yet, and you haven't earned the right to comment because you have no idea what it takes to produce a competent surgeon.

If my surgeon is going to put me first, do a competent job, and have honesty and integrity in his (her) practice, why the hell would I care when he decided to enter the field? Deciding you want to be a neurosurgeon as a college students doesn't give you a birthright to enter the field - on the contrary, to me as a PD, I would want to know if you had truly tested your passion for the field enough before you decided to enter it. The applicants that get a lot of attention in our meetings are the ones who seemingly found neurosurgery on a whim, whenever that was, and were able to articulate thru research, clinical service, interviews, etc. how dedicated they have become to the field. I know some faculty who see the "born to be a neurosurgeon" trope as a bit of a red flag. If you haven't ever had a shred of doubt that the field is for you, then you haven't thought about it enough.

To the OP: your PhD puts you in a good place. It shows you can put your mind to research and execute. But you need to show us, and quickly, that you can be good clinically. Shadow and get onto the NS service as much as you can. Show up to cases even on your days off. Take extra call on the weekends on easier rotations. Get to know senior faculty in the department. If the rest of your application is solid, you have a good shot.


Oh wow. So first you call yourself a "co-resident" and then you say you are a PD? And then you talk about "honesty"? Wow you can't make this up. 

Now I was interested in neuroscience in college (personal family reasons), and that interest led to research, and then an interest into clinical neurology, and then in medical school--developed into an interest in neurosurgery. Throughout the time, I have showed family medicine docs, neurologists and neurosurgeons. I have done research in cell bio labs with great PhD's who have all given me top letters. 

Hence, my acceptance and success in a top medical school. 

So where are the "red flags"??? See any "red flags"?? Well, the surgeons and scientists I have done research with don't see any "red flags" and I am slated to interview at top programs.

Sorry buddy, but folks like myself come first. we put in the work, we got the grades, we attended the conferences, we got the connections. We contributed to the field--through our lab research, through our retrospective studies, through our case studies. 

I don't know about you, but I don't see any "red flags" in being dedicated. If you just want to sneek on in, steal a spot from a top calaber guy... good luck because you will need it. It doesn't work that way, friend. You can't just wake up, decide you want prestige and money, and go into NS. 

I'm from a top school with NS/neusorsicence publications in highly cited journals. We don't need loafers who just want to steal spots from top candidates. Sorry, no druggies, no pimps and no "late bloomers".

(06-11-2021, 12:59 AM)Neurosurgeon PD Wrote: Sorry OP but neurosurgery is not a dumping ground for anyone who can't get into another other specialty; we are not family medicine or peds or OB. If you want to have a chance you will have to put in a few years of work. A PhD doesn't mean anything unless its in a real subject like math, biomedical engineering, mol biology, or some other hard science. And even then, if only from a well-respected program. 

A PhD in obese women dysphoria from Howard University doesn't cut it, sorry. 

OP seems like the guy who feels entitled to get what he wants, when he wants. No concern for the guys who put in the work.

These replies are from the same entitled, insecure person. Quit projecting onto OP and do some soul searching, “buddy”
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#15
I like how OP couldn't even be bothered to reply. A real star, a top candidate.  Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Most likely he will think of dermatology tomorrow and plastic surgery the day after. And you bozos are mocking me--a dedicated and top candidate. I am from a top med school, worked with the top guys in NS research, and apparently all those are "red flags".
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#16
(06-11-2021, 02:44 PM)Angry Med Student Wrote: I like how OP couldn't even be bothered to reply. A real star, a top candidate.  Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Most likely he will think of dermatology tomorrow and plastic surgery the day after. And you bozos are mocking me--a dedicated and top candidate. I am from a top med school, worked with the top guys in NS research, and apparently all those are "red flags".

You behavior, arrogance and entitlement are red flags. Humble yourself or it will be done for you. This field has a way of doing that.
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#17
(06-11-2021, 04:19 PM)Guest Wrote:
(06-11-2021, 02:44 PM)Angry Med Student Wrote: I like how OP couldn't even be bothered to reply. A real star, a top candidate.  Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Most likely he will think of dermatology tomorrow and plastic surgery the day after. And you bozos are mocking me--a dedicated and top candidate. I am from a top med school, worked with the top guys in NS research, and apparently all those are "red flags".

You behavior, arrogance and entitlement are red flags. Humble yourself or it will be done for you. This field has a way of doing that.

+1. Would hate to have this arrogant puke as a co-resident.
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#18
I have steps well into the top percentile, have aced 3rd year and have recs from top neurosurgeons. Only good feedback from eval. Amazing how doing well and working hard and serving patients will get you so much hate. 

Sorry folks, but I made a choice. I made an active choice. In high school I made a choice to study and do well. I made a choice to attend a top college on a scholarship, and made a choice to study, do research, and volunteer. I made a choice not to party or hook up or do drugs--unlike many (most?) of you. I made a choice to attend a top medical school, get good grades (despite grades "not mattering"), ace the steps, do research and be a top applicant. 

I made a choice to plan ahead and chose a field that respects hard work, dedication, innovation and discipline. And now I am receiving the consequences of that choice--glowing recs, publications in top journals (with more coming in as co-author), presentations as prestegous conferences, great away rotations. 

You guys made a choice too. a choice to be lazy. A choice to get drunk, to do drugs. A choice to take the easy way.

And now you must pay the price for that choice. Sorry.
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#19
What really irks me is that someone with no interest in NS, with no history of NS involvement, can just wake up, decide to go into NS, and get ahead of me. That really bugs me. And on top of that, some of the idiots here believe that is fair and just. 

It just doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't make any sense.
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#20
(06-11-2021, 11:44 PM)Angry Med Student Wrote: I have steps well into the top percentile, have aced 3rd year and have recs from top neurosurgeons. Only good feedback from eval. Amazing how doing well and working hard and serving patients will get you so much hate. 

Sorry folks, but I made a choice. I made an active choice. In high school I made a choice to study and do well. I made a choice to attend a top college on a scholarship, and made a choice to study, do research, and volunteer. I made a choice not to party or hook up or do drugs--unlike many (most?) of you. I made a choice to attend a top medical school, get good grades (despite grades "not mattering"), ace the steps, do research and be a top applicant. 

I made a choice to plan ahead and chose a field that respects hard work, dedication, innovation and discipline. And now I am receiving the consequences of that choice--glowing recs, publications in top journals (with more coming in as co-author), presentations as prestegous conferences, great away rotations. 

You guys made a choice too. a choice to be lazy. A choice to get drunk, to do drugs. A choice to take the easy way.

And now you must pay the price for that choice. Sorry.

I have seen some real psychopathology in this field, but you take the cake. Wow.
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