Night Float/Decent Call Programs

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(12-21-2021, 11:43 AM)Guest Wrote: The opposite was actually published regarding operative time: More in a 24h call system

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34866033/

Maybe it differs for gen surg vs nsg. They may have a dissimilar system depending on their service for what they do during a 24 hour call. For instance, trauma surg residents take 24 hour call but operate on the backlog of EGS cases throughout the night while they wait for traumas.

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(12-21-2021, 01:15 PM)Guest Wrote:

(12-21-2021, 11:43 AM)Guest Wrote: The opposite was actually published regarding operative time: More in a 24h call system

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34866033/

Maybe it differs for gen surg vs nsg. They may have a dissimilar system depending on their service for what they do during a 24 hour call. For instance, trauma surg residents take 24 hour call but operate on the backlog of EGS cases throughout the night while they wait for traumas.

Who the fuck is talking about Gen surgery

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(12-21-2021, 01:59 PM)Guest Wrote:

(12-21-2021, 01:15 PM)Guest Wrote:

(12-21-2021, 11:43 AM)Guest Wrote: The opposite was actually published regarding operative time: More in a 24h call system

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34866033/

Maybe it differs for gen surg vs nsg. They may have a dissimilar system depending on their service for what they do during a 24 hour call. For instance, trauma surg residents take 24 hour call but operate on the backlog of EGS cases throughout the night while they wait for traumas.

Who the fuck is talking about Gen surgery

Someone who can't be bothered to click a link and read the abstract lol

[Guest]

(12-21-2021, 11:43 AM)Guest Wrote: The opposite was actually published regarding operative time: More in a 24h call system

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34866033/

I don't think this is a meaningful difference - the quality of surgical exposure for junior residents is marginal at best.

What matters is that 24/7 there's somebody holding the pager and exclusively dedicated to the non-OR care of patients. One person can spend 24 consecutive hours doing this, or 2 people can split it and spend at least 30 minutes per day, every day, handing off in the evening. Two people spending 30 minutes per day adds up - that's 365 person-hours in a year - 15 twelve-hour work days per year per person handing off - minimum.

[Guest]

(12-21-2021, 11:43 AM)Guest Wrote: The opposite was actually published regarding operative time: More in a 24h call system

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34866033/

Yes but the paper also says the total number of cases graduating is the same. Because someone has to do this finite amount of work.

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I understand the efficiency trade-off but curious people experience on a QoL basis as well. From what I can tell programs that night float jr call:

Albany
cornell
emory
stanford
kansas
Louisville
UT-SA
Yale
Hofstra

others?