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My gen surg months were not learning about abdominal wall anatomy or running a trauma or anything else but pager holding and answering phone calls for bowel preps and doing consents I knew nothing about and writing notes. Worthless. I’d rather have an extra 6 months of neurosurgery so I can start operating 6 months earlier which is where I was stunted because I was too busy holding the pager later on.
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(01-17-2022, 08:53 PM)Guest Wrote: My gen surg months were not learning about abdominal wall anatomy or running a trauma or anything else but pager holding and answering phone calls for bowel preps and doing consents I knew nothing about and writing notes. Worthless. I’d rather have an extra 6 months of neurosurgery so I can start operating 6 months earlier which is where I was stunted because I was too busy holding the pager later on.

Applicants, rank programs that don’t farm you out to other services like this. Pay attention to the intern curriculum.
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(01-17-2022, 07:15 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-17-2022, 06:51 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-17-2022, 04:55 PM)Guest Wrote: The quality of US neurosurgical training has gone down since duty hours and shifting the internship away from general surgery.

Intern year w gen surg is just doing their scut work, holding pagers and taking calls anything

I do not see how writing DC summaries for Gen Surg is at all helpful for neurosurgery training. Also, I am not aware of a single program that is work hours compliant except for research years.

mayo and barrow and yale, i have heard, are work hour compliant for all 7 years
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(01-17-2022, 08:53 PM)Guest Wrote: My gen surg months were not learning about abdominal wall anatomy or running a trauma or anything else but pager holding and answering phone calls for bowel preps and doing consents I knew nothing about and writing notes. Worthless. I’d rather have an extra 6 months of neurosurgery so I can start operating 6 months earlier which is where I was stunted because I was too busy holding the pager later on.

A universal law of surgical training: if you don't give a shit about what you're doing, you'll be holding the pager, answering phone calls, and going home.

If you give a shit, you'll hold the pager & answer phone calls from the OR while you fanboy about the Shouldice repair and your gen surg chief pals teach you how to open an ex-lap at 10pm for shits and giggles after the categorical gen surg interns have tapped out.
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(01-17-2022, 07:15 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-17-2022, 06:51 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-17-2022, 04:55 PM)Guest Wrote: The quality of US neurosurgical training has gone down since duty hours and shifting the internship away from general surgery.

Intern year w gen surg is just doing their scut work, holding pagers and taking calls anything

I do not see how writing DC summaries for Gen Surg is at all helpful for neurosurgery training. Also, I am not aware of a single program that is work hours compliant except for research years.

You need a year of general patient care after medical school to actually become a good doctor.
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