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#1
I sent the following email to the ACGME hoping for some clarification regarding program closing:

Hello

I am the administrator at an online community for neurosurgery, http://neurosurgeryhub.org .  We recently learned of a program closing and there has been much questioning and speculation as to what happens next.  Would it be possible for someone to please clarify: 

1) What actions may lead to a program closing (perhaps historic examples)?

2) What happens to the residents who are currently in that program?  Does their funding from medicare come with them?  Does the program they join have to have an empty position or can they be an additional resident to the compliment?

3) What happens to the medical students who just matched to that program?  Do they have to re-enter the match?  Are they treated similar to current residents and able to move to another program.

Thank you for the clarification.



The reply I received encouraged individuals with questions to contact the neurosurgery executive RC either via phone or e-mail.  The contact information can be found at the ACGME website http://www.acgme.org/Specialties/Overvie...al-Surgery  Sorry I couldn't be of more help guys.
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(06-13-2017, 04:11 PM)admin Wrote: I sent the following email to the ACGME hoping for some clarification regarding program closing:

Hello

I am the administrator at an online community for neurosurgery, http://neurosurgeryhub.org .  We recently learned of a program closing and there has been much questioning and speculation as to what happens next.  Would it be possible for someone to please clarify: 

1) What actions may lead to a program closing (perhaps historic examples)?

2) What happens to the residents who are currently in that program?  Does their funding from medicare come with them?  Does the program they join have to have an empty position or can they be an additional resident to the compliment?

3) What happens to the medical students who just matched to that program?  Do they have to re-enter the match?  Are they treated similar to current residents and able to move to another program.

Thank you for the clarification.



The reply I received encouraged individuals with questions to contact the neurosurgery executive RC either via phone or e-mail.  The contact information can be found at the ACGME website http://www.acgme.org/Specialties/Overvie...al-Surgery  Sorry I couldn't be of more help guys.

Cop out.  Can someone call and ask those questions and post here please?
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#3
(06-13-2017, 04:42 PM)Guest Wrote:
(06-13-2017, 04:11 PM)admin Wrote: I sent the following email to the ACGME hoping for some clarification regarding program closing:

Hello

I am the administrator at an online community for neurosurgery, http://neurosurgeryhub.org .  We recently learned of a program closing and there has been much questioning and speculation as to what happens next.  Would it be possible for someone to please clarify: 

1) What actions may lead to a program closing (perhaps historic examples)?

2) What happens to the residents who are currently in that program?  Does their funding from medicare come with them?  Does the program they join have to have an empty position or can they be an additional resident to the compliment?

3) What happens to the medical students who just matched to that program?  Do they have to re-enter the match?  Are they treated similar to current residents and able to move to another program.

Thank you for the clarification.



The reply I received encouraged individuals with questions to contact the neurosurgery executive RC either via phone or e-mail.  The contact information can be found at the ACGME website http://www.acgme.org/Specialties/Overvie...al-Surgery  Sorry I couldn't be of more help guys.

Cop out.  Can someone call and ask those questions and post here please?
Why don't you?
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#4
(06-13-2017, 09:30 PM)Guest Wrote:
(06-13-2017, 04:42 PM)Guest Wrote:
(06-13-2017, 04:11 PM)admin Wrote: I sent the following email to the ACGME hoping for some clarification regarding program closing:

Hello

I am the administrator at an online community for neurosurgery, http://neurosurgeryhub.org .  We recently learned of a program closing and there has been much questioning and speculation as to what happens next.  Would it be possible for someone to please clarify: 

1) What actions may lead to a program closing (perhaps historic examples)?

2) What happens to the residents who are currently in that program?  Does their funding from medicare come with them?  Does the program they join have to have an empty position or can they be an additional resident to the compliment?

3) What happens to the medical students who just matched to that program?  Do they have to re-enter the match?  Are they treated similar to current residents and able to move to another program.

Thank you for the clarification.



The reply I received encouraged individuals with questions to contact the neurosurgery executive RC either via phone or e-mail.  The contact information can be found at the ACGME website http://www.acgme.org/Specialties/Overvie...al-Surgery  Sorry I couldn't be of more help guys.

Cop out.  Can someone call and ask those questions and post here please?
Why don't you?

Not the original reply, but I'm just a med student and afraid I'd get black balled.
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#5
If a resident seeks to transfer, independent of issues at their original program, they must find an open spot within an accredited program. This is to say that a program approved for 18 residents with a complement of 17 residents at that time could accept a transfer, whereas a program at full complement could not.

If a residency program is shut down the RRC allows other programs to exceed their approved complement to absorb the displaced residents AND the originating institution provides the funding for their training elsewhere. This is to say that a program with a full complement at 18 could take on a 19th resident if the transferring resident's program was shut down by the RRC or residents were granted a release from that program by the RRC due to programatic deficiencies.

FWIW Louisville went through something like this in the early 2010s and UChicago did so in the late 2000s.
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