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Where is this impression that programs are "protecting their own" coming from? Programs don't give a shit about anyone other than the most competitive applicants that they have a shot at recruiting. Home students included.
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(02-25-2021, 10:35 PM)Guest Wrote: Where is this impression that programs are "protecting their own" coming from? Programs don't give a shit about anyone other than the most competitive applicants that they have a shot at recruiting. Home students included.

Why you say this?
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(02-25-2021, 10:35 PM)Guest Wrote: Where is this impression that programs are "protecting their own" coming from? Programs don't give a shit about anyone other than the most competitive applicants that they have a shot at recruiting. Home students included.

This is not entirely true. While home program may not want to keep every home student, they will do their best to make sure they match. It is not a good look for the department and medical school to have students fail to match in neurosurgery. Do not be shy, let your home chair know where you want to go and have them call on your behalf. That being said, I attended a medical school and residency program that vets their students prior to application. I realize not every place may be doing this, and may have poorly qualified people participating in the match.
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(02-25-2021, 11:01 PM)Guest Wrote:
(02-25-2021, 10:35 PM)Guest Wrote: Where is this impression that programs are "protecting their own" coming from? Programs don't give a shit about anyone other than the most competitive applicants that they have a shot at recruiting. Home students included.

This is not entirely true. While home program may not want to keep every home student, they will do their best to make sure they match. It is not a good look for the department and medical school to have students fail to match in neurosurgery. Do not be shy, let your home chair know where you want to go and have them call on your behalf. That being said, I attended a medical school and residency program that vets their students prior to application. I realize not every place may be doing this, and may have poorly qualified people participating in the match.
My home program does not do anything you mentioned above.
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(02-25-2021, 11:01 PM)Guest Wrote:
(02-25-2021, 10:35 PM)Guest Wrote: Where is this impression that programs are "protecting their own" coming from? Programs don't give a shit about anyone other than the most competitive applicants that they have a shot at recruiting. Home students included.

This is not entirely true. While home program may not want to keep every home student, they will do their best to make sure they match. It is not a good look for the department and medical school to have students fail to match in neurosurgery. Do not be shy, let your home chair know where you want to go and have them call on your behalf. That being said, I attended a medical school and residency program that vets their students prior to application. I realize not every place may be doing this, and may have poorly qualified people participating in the match.

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My home program interviews us before our SubI and wants us to match, regardless of how we rank them they call multiple places for us
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(02-26-2021, 07:55 AM)Guest Wrote:
(02-25-2021, 11:01 PM)Guest Wrote:
(02-25-2021, 10:35 PM)Guest Wrote: Where is this impression that programs are "protecting their own" coming from? Programs don't give a shit about anyone other than the most competitive applicants that they have a shot at recruiting. Home students included.

This is not entirely true. While home program may not want to keep every home student, they will do their best to make sure they match. It is not a good look for the department and medical school to have students fail to match in neurosurgery. Do not be shy, let your home chair know where you want to go and have them call on your behalf. That being said, I attended a medical school and residency program that vets their students prior to application. I realize not every place may be doing this, and may have poorly qualified people participating in the match.

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My home program interviews us before our SubI and wants us to match, regardless of how we rank them they call multiple places for us

Mine is the opposite. They interview us normally (although sub-I is basically one long interview) and rank us to stay (which is really nice), but won’t typically call for us. It makes it scary when we have more applicants than spots, but so far no one has failed to match since I’ve been here
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(02-26-2021, 09:03 AM)Guest Wrote:
(02-26-2021, 07:55 AM)Guest Wrote:
(02-25-2021, 11:01 PM)Guest Wrote:
(02-25-2021, 10:35 PM)Guest Wrote: Where is this impression that programs are "protecting their own" coming from? Programs don't give a shit about anyone other than the most competitive applicants that they have a shot at recruiting. Home students included.

This is not entirely true. While home program may not want to keep every home student, they will do their best to make sure they match. It is not a good look for the department and medical school to have students fail to match in neurosurgery. Do not be shy, let your home chair know where you want to go and have them call on your behalf. That being said, I attended a medical school and residency program that vets their students prior to application. I realize not every place may be doing this, and may have poorly qualified people participating in the match.

+1
My home program interviews us before our SubI and wants us to match, regardless of how we rank them they call multiple places for us

Mine is the opposite. They interview us normally (although sub-I is basically one long interview) and rank us to stay (which is really nice), but won’t typically call for us. It makes it scary when we have more applicants than spots, but so far no one has failed to match since I’ve been here

This is a nice problem to have
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(02-26-2021, 09:48 AM)Guest Wrote:
(02-26-2021, 09:03 AM)Guest Wrote:
(02-26-2021, 07:55 AM)Guest Wrote:
(02-25-2021, 11:01 PM)Guest Wrote:
(02-25-2021, 10:35 PM)Guest Wrote: Where is this impression that programs are "protecting their own" coming from? Programs don't give a shit about anyone other than the most competitive applicants that they have a shot at recruiting. Home students included.

This is not entirely true. While home program may not want to keep every home student, they will do their best to make sure they match. It is not a good look for the department and medical school to have students fail to match in neurosurgery. Do not be shy, let your home chair know where you want to go and have them call on your behalf. That being said, I attended a medical school and residency program that vets their students prior to application. I realize not every place may be doing this, and may have poorly qualified people participating in the match.

+1
My home program interviews us before our SubI and wants us to match, regardless of how we rank them they call multiple places for us

Mine is the opposite. They interview us normally (although sub-I is basically one long interview) and rank us to stay (which is really nice), but won’t typically call for us. It makes it scary when we have more applicants than spots, but so far no one has failed to match since I’ve been here

This is a nice problem to have

My home program does not make phone calls. Home students go unmatched every year.
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(02-26-2021, 10:25 AM)Guest Wrote:
(02-26-2021, 09:48 AM)Guest Wrote:
(02-26-2021, 09:03 AM)Guest Wrote:
(02-26-2021, 07:55 AM)Guest Wrote:
(02-25-2021, 11:01 PM)Guest Wrote: This is not entirely true. While home program may not want to keep every home student, they will do their best to make sure they match. It is not a good look for the department and medical school to have students fail to match in neurosurgery. Do not be shy, let your home chair know where you want to go and have them call on your behalf. That being said, I attended a medical school and residency program that vets their students prior to application. I realize not every place may be doing this, and may have poorly qualified people participating in the match.

+1
My home program interviews us before our SubI and wants us to match, regardless of how we rank them they call multiple places for us

Mine is the opposite. They interview us normally (although sub-I is basically one long interview) and rank us to stay (which is really nice), but won’t typically call for us. It makes it scary when we have more applicants than spots, but so far no one has failed to match since I’ve been here

This is a nice problem to have

My home program does not make phone calls. Home students go unmatched every year.
That sucks and doesn't really reflect well on your program whether they see it or not. I guess just remember this feeling in 10yr when you have med students asking you to make calls for them. You can be the change for them.
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(02-26-2021, 10:25 AM)Guest Wrote:
(02-26-2021, 09:48 AM)Guest Wrote:
(02-26-2021, 09:03 AM)Guest Wrote:
(02-26-2021, 07:55 AM)Guest Wrote:
(02-25-2021, 11:01 PM)Guest Wrote: This is not entirely true. While home program may not want to keep every home student, they will do their best to make sure they match. It is not a good look for the department and medical school to have students fail to match in neurosurgery. Do not be shy, let your home chair know where you want to go and have them call on your behalf. That being said, I attended a medical school and residency program that vets their students prior to application. I realize not every place may be doing this, and may have poorly qualified people participating in the match.

+1
My home program interviews us before our SubI and wants us to match, regardless of how we rank them they call multiple places for us

Mine is the opposite. They interview us normally (although sub-I is basically one long interview) and rank us to stay (which is really nice), but won’t typically call for us. It makes it scary when we have more applicants than spots, but so far no one has failed to match since I’ve been here

This is a nice problem to have

My home program does not make phone calls. Home students go unmatched every year.

This is why vetting is important, these applicants would likely have been highly competitive in another specialty.
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