(01-29-2021, 04:07 PM)Guest Wrote: (01-29-2021, 03:49 PM)Guest Wrote: (01-29-2021, 03:33 PM)Guest Wrote: Sure, but you can only play the “you’re my #1” card once, which is one of the few ways applicants can affect their ranking.
How much does this card even affect it?
Many top programs do not like to go down their rank list at all, and so will match the top number of applicants for slots they have. If you were in consideration for a rank to match position, by not declaring the program as #1, you may count yourself out for a position. I don’t know why this is so important to Chairs and PDs, but it is a reality nonetheless.
Yeah programs' worry about falling down their own rank lists is strange to me. It's not like USNWR med school rankings where "yield" (% of accepted applicants who matriculate) can affect the ranking, incentivizing stinginess with acceptances. No one knows where on their list they match except the people in the program itself
(01-29-2021, 04:07 PM)Guest Wrote: (01-29-2021, 03:49 PM)Guest Wrote: (01-29-2021, 03:33 PM)Guest Wrote: Sure, but you can only play the “you’re my #1” card once, which is one of the few ways applicants can affect their ranking.
How much does this card even affect it?
Many top programs do not like to go down their rank list at all, and so will match the top number of applicants for slots they have. If you were in consideration for a rank to match position, by not declaring the program as #1, you may count yourself out for a position. I don’t know why this is so important to Chairs and PDs, but it is a reality nonetheless.
Agreed. The gamble with BNI is that they don't tell you if you are ranked highly (unlike many other programs) so if you use your #1 card on them and the feeling isn't mutual then you might drop down another program's list where you would have matched if you had sent them that email... subsequently dropping down your own rank list
(01-29-2021, 06:29 PM)Guest Wrote: (01-29-2021, 04:07 PM)Guest Wrote: (01-29-2021, 03:49 PM)Guest Wrote: (01-29-2021, 03:33 PM)Guest Wrote: Sure, but you can only play the “you’re my #1” card once, which is one of the few ways applicants can affect their ranking.
How much does this card even affect it?
Many top programs do not like to go down their rank list at all, and so will match the top number of applicants for slots they have. If you were in consideration for a rank to match position, by not declaring the program as #1, you may count yourself out for a position. I don’t know why this is so important to Chairs and PDs, but it is a reality nonetheless.
Agreed. The gamble with BNI is that they don't tell you if you are ranked highly (unlike many other programs) so if you use your #1 card on them and the feeling isn't mutual then you might drop down another program's list where you would have matched if you had sent them that email... subsequently dropping down your own rank list
This is something weird about neurosurgery that isn't always appreciated - the #1 email/mentor phone calls do have sway at a decent portion of places, so using it on BNI where like 10-12 are trying to get in is a gamble. If you used that card on maybe a less "sexy" program that you'd really be almost as happy at then they may be more likely to rank you to match, vs. if you do it at BNI and put that other program #2 and then don't match Barrow, you're more likely to fall past that other program too.
In the end it's likely best to still rank according to preference, but it's a consideration that isn't accounted for by the "rank only as you prefer" philosophy, if you're thinking about ranking one of these really desirable programs first
Anyone know how to stand out at a program like this on a subi?
They have like 20+ med students rotating
(05-17-2021, 12:57 PM)Guest Wrote: Anyone know how to stand out at a program like this on a subi?
They have like 20+ med students rotating
is it possible to get in without doing a sub-i? how many of the members of the most recent classes didn't do sub-i's?
1/4 did a sub-i there last year
(05-18-2021, 01:01 AM)Guest Wrote: 1/4 did a sub-i there last year
sub-i's weren't allowed last year.. right?
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(01-29-2021, 06:29 PM)Guest Wrote: (01-29-2021, 04:07 PM)Guest Wrote: (01-29-2021, 03:49 PM)Guest Wrote: (01-29-2021, 03:33 PM)Guest Wrote: Sure, but you can only play the “you’re my #1” card once, which is one of the few ways applicants can affect their ranking.
How much does this card even affect it?
Many top programs do not like to go down their rank list at all, and so will match the top number of applicants for slots they have. If you were in consideration for a rank to match position, by not declaring the program as #1, you may count yourself out for a position. I don’t know why this is so important to Chairs and PDs, but it is a reality nonetheless.
Agreed. The gamble with BNI is that they don't tell you if you are ranked highly (unlike many other programs) so if you use your #1 card on them and the feeling isn't mutual then you might drop down another program's list where you would have matched if you had sent them that email... subsequently dropping down your own rank list
Can’t u lie and tell every program they are #to ? Do pds actually compare emails with each other or what?
(05-18-2021, 01:57 AM)Guest Wrote: (05-18-2021, 01:01 AM)Guest Wrote: 1/4 did a sub-i there last year
sub-i's weren't allowed last year.. right?
Correct. Last year is a bad example. They were very open at the interview about how the lack of sub-i's made this a challenging year for them. Since they (a) don't really have an affiliated med school and (b) care a lot more about fit, doing a sub-I at BNI makes a huge difference.
That being said, they're still limited this year so if you didn't get the sub-i and you drink the BNI or bust koolaid, don't lose hope
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