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Ortho vs. Neuro (For Spine)
#21
(04-19-2022, 06:32 PM)Guest Wrote: Is ortho residency lifestyle actually better tho? They work long hours too so its no walk in the park

Ortho residency is is a walk in the park. Where I trained the pgy-2-3 years were brutal, and I've heard that from other friends at other locations. Lots of call and not as much OR. And remember there are a lot more bones in the body than shunts, so every bone problem is a consult for you. pgy 4-5 depending on the service can be rough. Elective hips/shoulders, great life style. Home at a reasonable hour, weekends free, not really any emergency stuff. However, trauma is terrible. they did a month at a time, and as a 4-5 you were essentially at the hospital that entire month most days and nights. Great operative experience since that's all you did. but not so great for lifestyle..... as for spine, where I trained, ortho did 3-4 mo total in residency. None of them while I was there went into spine, so the Ortho PA did the majority of the cases. As for neurosurgery, we all did a significant amount of spine, some more than others. I did about 40% spine, some junior guys who wanted to do more spine were more 70-80%. Neurosurgery does way more spine in residency, which someone posted some papers about earlier in the thread. but when you get into practice you will find people don't care who they go to for spine. They just want to see someone. And honestly most lay people are surprised that neurosurgeons do spine. I wasn't expecting that.
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#22
What are the top 5 spine fellowships currently in US?
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#23
(08-31-2022, 02:10 AM)Guest Wrote: What are the top 5 spine fellowships currently in US?

totally depends on what you intend on getting out of fellowship

some of the top ones depending on your needs are 

columbia
duke
ucsf
barrow
cleveland clinic
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#24
(08-31-2022, 08:26 AM)Guest Wrote:
(08-31-2022, 02:10 AM)Guest Wrote: What are the top 5 spine fellowships currently in US?

totally depends on what you intend on getting out of fellowship

some of the top ones depending on your needs are 

columbia
duke
ucsf
barrow
cleveland clinic

Also depends if you're only talking about programs that will accept neurosurgery residents
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#25
(08-31-2022, 08:26 AM)Guest Wrote: some of the top ones depending on your needs are 

columbia
duke
ucsf
barrow
cleveland clinic

Hard to take this list seriously without including Miami.
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#26
Go into ortho, your life in residency will be easier and you'll make the same amount of money. Any spine surgeon, regardless of ortho or neurosurgery, will make 700k starting in private practice.
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#27
Miami is a one trick pony. Good spine fellowship for Wang but other than that nothing else.
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#28
(08-31-2022, 08:48 AM)Guest Wrote:
(08-31-2022, 08:26 AM)Guest Wrote: some of the top ones depending on your needs are 

columbia
duke
ucsf
barrow
cleveland clinic

Hard to take this list seriously without including Miami.

Hard to take this list seriously period.
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#29
(08-31-2022, 02:52 PM)Guest Wrote: Go into ortho, your life in residency will be easier and you'll make the same amount of money. Any spine surgeon, regardless of ortho or neurosurgery, will make 700k starting in private practice.

Ortho sucks at spine
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#30
Pick what you want to do. There are neurosurgeons doing orthopedic fellowships. Orthopedic spine doctors on the one hand focus on spine which is great and maybe a better quality of life. Neurosurgery has to do neurosurgery call as well generally. This makes you more valuable to the hospital. There are fantastic orthopedic spine doctors but there are more spine fellowships than candidates so the mid to bottom tier are the proceduralists who do the same ALIF and perc screws for everything. Hospital doesn't care they make money....
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