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Wayyyy over hours on subinternships (100-110+)
#1
I don't mind as a subintern, but it has me wondering what 7 years will be like. Can anyone else relate?
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#2
You have no responsibilities yet. Your residents are there longer and working harder. If this bothers you, I would switch specialties now.
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#3
(06-11-2019, 11:12 PM)Guest Wrote: You have no responsibilities yet. Your residents are there longer and working harder. If this bothers you, I would switch specialties now.

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#4
Seriously. Quite literally, the only purpose of a Sub-I is to show a program how hard you're willing to work to get into neurosurgery. Those hours are par for the course for our best Sub-Is.
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#5
Fwiw I found the hours on some of my subis exceeded those of what I actually do in most of residency.
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#6
Old salty dog here. To preface: I am not saying I had it harder, nor am I saying it was the right way. I worked 120+ hours/week my Pgy1-4 years, and a similar but slightly lighter amount my senior on service years. Years 2 and 3 were Q2 call, with no 28-hour limit. I almost did not return after research and electives.

It breaks people. Everyone changes in residency. I have seen many divorces, including my own, directly attributed to the hours and personality changes that occur. Is it worth it? That is a very individual question. I probably suffer from Stockholm syndrome or a sunk cost fallacy, meaning if it wasn’t I wasted my life to get where I am. I will tell you this, though. The 20-something kid version me that applied to neurosurgery would not think it was worth it.
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#7
are these hours the norm at most places?
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#8
Sweet, thanks, doesn't bother me, will adjust
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#9
ditto to what focus said
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(06-12-2019, 06:48 AM)Guest Wrote: Old salty dog here.  To preface:  I am not saying I had it harder, nor am I saying it was the right way.  I worked 120+ hours/week my Pgy1-4 years, and a similar but slightly lighter amount my senior on service years.  Years 2 and 3 were Q2 call, with no 28-hour limit.  I almost did not return after research and electives.

It breaks people.  Everyone changes in residency.  I have seen many divorces, including my own, directly attributed to the hours and personality changes that occur.  Is it worth it?  That is a very individual question.  I probably suffer from Stockholm syndrome or a sunk cost fallacy, meaning if it wasn’t I wasted my life to get where I am.  I will tell you this, though. The 20-something kid version me that applied to neurosurgery would not think it was worth it.

Real wisdom right here. For real.
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