how many spots does GW have? some sources say 1 some say 2!
thanks guys and gals, be safe
a program director
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There are a couple of thoughts on here about cancelling interviews: General rules:
Cancel as soon as you know as that only provides the institution an opportunity to give an interview position to someone on the waitlist
-interview slots are limited and the interviewers are giving up clinic/OR time to interview= money lost
-and people on the waitlist are anxious and have to plan, and would typically love your spot
note on trading- this is not allowed typically- you cancel, the institution then reaches out to the next in line. If you trade an interview date at the same place with someone confirmed to interview that is fine and the EPCs probably appreciate that.
RECOMMENDED:
do not cancel an interview less than 7 days prior to it.
Some of us program directors will send a email or note to the program director at your institution if this occurs as most believe this is not very professional.
of course if you have a family emergency, get sick, etc that is different and I would explain as much as you can to the program when you cancel probably within 14 days of the interview. I think if you are less than 7 days and cancel and simply say you are not interested in the program to the program that would probably avoid the communication back to your primary institution. Of course everyplace is different and different views on this but this is the general sense I get on these things.
Good luck to you all this year, there are a lot of amazing applicants this year.
(11-14-2020, 09:06 AM)a program director Wrote: There are a couple of thoughts on here about cancelling interviews: General rules:
Cancel as soon as you know as that only provides the institution an opportunity to give an interview position to someone on the waitlist
-interview slots are limited and the interviewers are giving up clinic/OR time to interview= money lost
-and people on the waitlist are anxious and have to plan, and would typically love your spot
note on trading- this is not allowed typically- you cancel, the institution then reaches out to the next in line. If you trade an interview date at the same place with someone confirmed to interview that is fine and the EPCs probably appreciate that.
RECOMMENDED:
do not cancel an interview less than 7 days prior to it.
Some of us program directors will send a email or note to the program director at your institution if this occurs as most believe this is not very professional.
of course if you have a family emergency, get sick, etc that is different and I would explain as much as you can to the program when you cancel probably within 14 days of the interview. I think if you are less than 7 days and cancel and simply say you are not interested in the program to the program that would probably avoid the communication back to your primary institution. Of course everyplace is different and different views on this but this is the general sense I get on these things.
Good luck to you all this year, there are a lot of amazing applicants this year.
"money lost"
Thank you for broadcasting your value system. Which program do you direct?
(11-15-2020, 11:39 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-14-2020, 09:06 AM)a program director Wrote: There are a couple of thoughts on here about cancelling interviews: General rules:
Cancel as soon as you know as that only provides the institution an opportunity to give an interview position to someone on the waitlist
-interview slots are limited and the interviewers are giving up clinic/OR time to interview= money lost
-and people on the waitlist are anxious and have to plan, and would typically love your spot
note on trading- this is not allowed typically- you cancel, the institution then reaches out to the next in line. If you trade an interview date at the same place with someone confirmed to interview that is fine and the EPCs probably appreciate that.
RECOMMENDED:
do not cancel an interview less than 7 days prior to it.
Some of us program directors will send a email or note to the program director at your institution if this occurs as most believe this is not very professional.
of course if you have a family emergency, get sick, etc that is different and I would explain as much as you can to the program when you cancel probably within 14 days of the interview. I think if you are less than 7 days and cancel and simply say you are not interested in the program to the program that would probably avoid the communication back to your primary institution. Of course everyplace is different and different views on this but this is the general sense I get on these things.
Good luck to you all this year, there are a lot of amazing applicants this year.
"money lost"
Thank you for broadcasting your value system. Which program do you direct?
Lol, if you're looking for a program where neurosurgeons don't care about their money you're going to have a bad time.
(11-15-2020, 11:42 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-15-2020, 11:39 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-14-2020, 09:06 AM)a program director Wrote: There are a couple of thoughts on here about cancelling interviews: General rules:
Cancel as soon as you know as that only provides the institution an opportunity to give an interview position to someone on the waitlist
-interview slots are limited and the interviewers are giving up clinic/OR time to interview= money lost
-and people on the waitlist are anxious and have to plan, and would typically love your spot
note on trading- this is not allowed typically- you cancel, the institution then reaches out to the next in line. If you trade an interview date at the same place with someone confirmed to interview that is fine and the EPCs probably appreciate that.
RECOMMENDED:
do not cancel an interview less than 7 days prior to it.
Some of us program directors will send a email or note to the program director at your institution if this occurs as most believe this is not very professional.
of course if you have a family emergency, get sick, etc that is different and I would explain as much as you can to the program when you cancel probably within 14 days of the interview. I think if you are less than 7 days and cancel and simply say you are not interested in the program to the program that would probably avoid the communication back to your primary institution. Of course everyplace is different and different views on this but this is the general sense I get on these things.
Good luck to you all this year, there are a lot of amazing applicants this year.
"money lost"
Thank you for broadcasting your value system. Which program do you direct?
Lol, if you're looking for a program where neurosurgeons don't care about their money you're going to have a bad time.
Literally the first thing applicants are hearing from this is PD is "you better not cost me money." I'm not "looking" for anything and I call it as I see it. Enjoy your Kool-Aid.
(11-15-2020, 11:42 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-15-2020, 11:39 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-14-2020, 09:06 AM)a program director Wrote: There are a couple of thoughts on here about cancelling interviews: General rules:
Cancel as soon as you know as that only provides the institution an opportunity to give an interview position to someone on the waitlist
-interview slots are limited and the interviewers are giving up clinic/OR time to interview= money lost
-and people on the waitlist are anxious and have to plan, and would typically love your spot
note on trading- this is not allowed typically- you cancel, the institution then reaches out to the next in line. If you trade an interview date at the same place with someone confirmed to interview that is fine and the EPCs probably appreciate that.
RECOMMENDED:
do not cancel an interview less than 7 days prior to it.
Some of us program directors will send a email or note to the program director at your institution if this occurs as most believe this is not very professional.
of course if you have a family emergency, get sick, etc that is different and I would explain as much as you can to the program when you cancel probably within 14 days of the interview. I think if you are less than 7 days and cancel and simply say you are not interested in the program to the program that would probably avoid the communication back to your primary institution. Of course everyplace is different and different views on this but this is the general sense I get on these things.
Good luck to you all this year, there are a lot of amazing applicants this year.
"money lost"
Thank you for broadcasting your value system. Which program do you direct?
Lol, if you're looking for a program where neurosurgeons don't care about their money you're going to have a bad time.
Wow if that's not a damning condemnation of an entire specialty I dunno what is. Is that why you're applying too?
(11-14-2020, 09:06 AM)a program director Wrote: There are a couple of thoughts on here about cancelling interviews: General rules:
Cancel as soon as you know as that only provides the institution an opportunity to give an interview position to someone on the waitlist
-interview slots are limited and the interviewers are giving up clinic/OR time to interview= money lost
-and people on the waitlist are anxious and have to plan, and would typically love your spot
note on trading- this is not allowed typically- you cancel, the institution then reaches out to the next in line. If you trade an interview date at the same place with someone confirmed to interview that is fine and the EPCs probably appreciate that.
RECOMMENDED:
do not cancel an interview less than 7 days prior to it.
Some of us program directors will send a email or note to the program director at your institution if this occurs as most believe this is not very professional.
of course if you have a family emergency, get sick, etc that is different and I would explain as much as you can to the program when you cancel probably within 14 days of the interview. I think if you are less than 7 days and cancel and simply say you are not interested in the program to the program that would probably avoid the communication back to your primary institution. Of course everyplace is different and different views on this but this is the general sense I get on these things.
Good luck to you all this year, there are a lot of amazing applicants this year.
OMG you're threatening to sabotage applicants at home as retribution for inconveniencing you? MAJOR RED FLAGS AT THIS PROGRAM. Anyone know who this is?
(11-15-2020, 11:54 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-15-2020, 11:42 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-15-2020, 11:39 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-14-2020, 09:06 AM)a program director Wrote: There are a couple of thoughts on here about cancelling interviews: General rules:
Cancel as soon as you know as that only provides the institution an opportunity to give an interview position to someone on the waitlist
-interview slots are limited and the interviewers are giving up clinic/OR time to interview= money lost
-and people on the waitlist are anxious and have to plan, and would typically love your spot
note on trading- this is not allowed typically- you cancel, the institution then reaches out to the next in line. If you trade an interview date at the same place with someone confirmed to interview that is fine and the EPCs probably appreciate that.
RECOMMENDED:
do not cancel an interview less than 7 days prior to it.
Some of us program directors will send a email or note to the program director at your institution if this occurs as most believe this is not very professional.
of course if you have a family emergency, get sick, etc that is different and I would explain as much as you can to the program when you cancel probably within 14 days of the interview. I think if you are less than 7 days and cancel and simply say you are not interested in the program to the program that would probably avoid the communication back to your primary institution. Of course everyplace is different and different views on this but this is the general sense I get on these things.
Good luck to you all this year, there are a lot of amazing applicants this year.
"money lost"
Thank you for broadcasting your value system. Which program do you direct?
Lol, if you're looking for a program where neurosurgeons don't care about their money you're going to have a bad time.
Literally the first thing applicants are hearing from this is PD is "you better not cost me money." I'm not "looking" for anything and I call it as I see it. Enjoy your Kool-Aid.
(11-15-2020, 11:42 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-15-2020, 11:39 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-14-2020, 09:06 AM)a program director Wrote: There are a couple of thoughts on here about cancelling interviews: General rules:
Cancel as soon as you know as that only provides the institution an opportunity to give an interview position to someone on the waitlist
-interview slots are limited and the interviewers are giving up clinic/OR time to interview= money lost
-and people on the waitlist are anxious and have to plan, and would typically love your spot
note on trading- this is not allowed typically- you cancel, the institution then reaches out to the next in line. If you trade an interview date at the same place with someone confirmed to interview that is fine and the EPCs probably appreciate that.
RECOMMENDED:
do not cancel an interview less than 7 days prior to it.
Some of us program directors will send a email or note to the program director at your institution if this occurs as most believe this is not very professional.
of course if you have a family emergency, get sick, etc that is different and I would explain as much as you can to the program when you cancel probably within 14 days of the interview. I think if you are less than 7 days and cancel and simply say you are not interested in the program to the program that would probably avoid the communication back to your primary institution. Of course everyplace is different and different views on this but this is the general sense I get on these things.
Good luck to you all this year, there are a lot of amazing applicants this year.
"money lost"
Thank you for broadcasting your value system. Which program do you direct?
Lol, if you're looking for a program where neurosurgeons don't care about their money you're going to have a bad time.
Wow if that's not a damning condemnation of an entire specialty I dunno what is. Is that why you're applying too?
(11-14-2020, 09:06 AM)a program director Wrote: There are a couple of thoughts on here about cancelling interviews: General rules:
Cancel as soon as you know as that only provides the institution an opportunity to give an interview position to someone on the waitlist
-interview slots are limited and the interviewers are giving up clinic/OR time to interview= money lost
-and people on the waitlist are anxious and have to plan, and would typically love your spot
note on trading- this is not allowed typically- you cancel, the institution then reaches out to the next in line. If you trade an interview date at the same place with someone confirmed to interview that is fine and the EPCs probably appreciate that.
RECOMMENDED:
do not cancel an interview less than 7 days prior to it.
Some of us program directors will send a email or note to the program director at your institution if this occurs as most believe this is not very professional.
of course if you have a family emergency, get sick, etc that is different and I would explain as much as you can to the program when you cancel probably within 14 days of the interview. I think if you are less than 7 days and cancel and simply say you are not interested in the program to the program that would probably avoid the communication back to your primary institution. Of course everyplace is different and different views on this but this is the general sense I get on these things.
Good luck to you all this year, there are a lot of amazing applicants this year.
OMG you're threatening to sabotage applicants at home as retribution for inconveniencing you? MAJOR RED FLAGS AT THIS PROGRAM. Anyone know who this is?
Just another applicant: but this is common sense and being professional/polite, if you want to quit a job or cancel an interview, give 1-2 weeks notice. The idea of notifying home program I heard from few programs...one may be top...I won’t say the name...but it seems reasonable for them to do that to me...it is about being professional....I don’t see it as a red flag to this program...are you an applicant as well...? I see you as someone who is unprofessional lol...you tell us who you are as well...
(11-15-2020, 11:54 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-15-2020, 11:42 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-15-2020, 11:39 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-14-2020, 09:06 AM)a program director Wrote: There are a couple of thoughts on here about cancelling interviews: General rules:
Cancel as soon as you know as that only provides the institution an opportunity to give an interview position to someone on the waitlist
-interview slots are limited and the interviewers are giving up clinic/OR time to interview= money lost
-and people on the waitlist are anxious and have to plan, and would typically love your spot
note on trading- this is not allowed typically- you cancel, the institution then reaches out to the next in line. If you trade an interview date at the same place with someone confirmed to interview that is fine and the EPCs probably appreciate that.
RECOMMENDED:
do not cancel an interview less than 7 days prior to it.
Some of us program directors will send a email or note to the program director at your institution if this occurs as most believe this is not very professional.
of course if you have a family emergency, get sick, etc that is different and I would explain as much as you can to the program when you cancel probably within 14 days of the interview. I think if you are less than 7 days and cancel and simply say you are not interested in the program to the program that would probably avoid the communication back to your primary institution. Of course everyplace is different and different views on this but this is the general sense I get on these things.
Good luck to you all this year, there are a lot of amazing applicants this year.
"money lost"
Thank you for broadcasting your value system. Which program do you direct?
Lol, if you're looking for a program where neurosurgeons don't care about their money you're going to have a bad time.
Literally the first thing applicants are hearing from this is PD is "you better not cost me money." I'm not "looking" for anything and I call it as I see it. Enjoy your Kool-Aid.
(11-15-2020, 11:42 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-15-2020, 11:39 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-14-2020, 09:06 AM)a program director Wrote: There are a couple of thoughts on here about cancelling interviews: General rules:
Cancel as soon as you know as that only provides the institution an opportunity to give an interview position to someone on the waitlist
-interview slots are limited and the interviewers are giving up clinic/OR time to interview= money lost
-and people on the waitlist are anxious and have to plan, and would typically love your spot
note on trading- this is not allowed typically- you cancel, the institution then reaches out to the next in line. If you trade an interview date at the same place with someone confirmed to interview that is fine and the EPCs probably appreciate that.
RECOMMENDED:
do not cancel an interview less than 7 days prior to it.
Some of us program directors will send a email or note to the program director at your institution if this occurs as most believe this is not very professional.
of course if you have a family emergency, get sick, etc that is different and I would explain as much as you can to the program when you cancel probably within 14 days of the interview. I think if you are less than 7 days and cancel and simply say you are not interested in the program to the program that would probably avoid the communication back to your primary institution. Of course everyplace is different and different views on this but this is the general sense I get on these things.
Good luck to you all this year, there are a lot of amazing applicants this year.
"money lost"
Thank you for broadcasting your value system. Which program do you direct?
Lol, if you're looking for a program where neurosurgeons don't care about their money you're going to have a bad time.
Wow if that's not a damning condemnation of an entire specialty I dunno what is. Is that why you're applying too?
(11-14-2020, 09:06 AM)a program director Wrote: There are a couple of thoughts on here about cancelling interviews: General rules:
Cancel as soon as you know as that only provides the institution an opportunity to give an interview position to someone on the waitlist
-interview slots are limited and the interviewers are giving up clinic/OR time to interview= money lost
-and people on the waitlist are anxious and have to plan, and would typically love your spot
note on trading- this is not allowed typically- you cancel, the institution then reaches out to the next in line. If you trade an interview date at the same place with someone confirmed to interview that is fine and the EPCs probably appreciate that.
RECOMMENDED:
do not cancel an interview less than 7 days prior to it.
Some of us program directors will send a email or note to the program director at your institution if this occurs as most believe this is not very professional.
of course if you have a family emergency, get sick, etc that is different and I would explain as much as you can to the program when you cancel probably within 14 days of the interview. I think if you are less than 7 days and cancel and simply say you are not interested in the program to the program that would probably avoid the communication back to your primary institution. Of course everyplace is different and different views on this but this is the general sense I get on these things.
Good luck to you all this year, there are a lot of amazing applicants this year.
OMG you're threatening to sabotage applicants at home as retribution for inconveniencing you? MAJOR RED FLAGS AT THIS PROGRAM. Anyone know who this is?
You know when you reply multiple times we can see that they're all you, right?
If you can't cancel or reschedule an interview in an appropriate amount of time it means you're either unorganized, inconsiderate, self-centered, or all of the above. It's rude in any industry at any level.
And yes, i know it's shocking, but the primary motivation of department leadership throughout the country is money. It's all about their referral base, case loads, RVUs, salaries, compensation from industry, etc. Even the more academic ones, front and center in their minds are grants, promotions, the companies they're involved in. Mike Lawton doesn't drive a Toyota Camry.
You thinking that's a "condemnation" just shows you're a naive child and you have no idea what you're getting into. Genuinely hope you don't interview at my program.
Pretty appalling to see the immaturity of the applicants that think they are owed anything by anyone. When you draw an attending's salary and proceed to take a pay hit by some punk ass applicant who couldn't be bothered to cancel an interview in a reasonable time frame or just fails to show up, maybe then you'll understand. After all, it's not YOUR money that's lost, so who cares, am I right? The advice from the PD above doesn't only apply to scheduling residency interviews, it applies to any job interview you take in real fucking life. Any reasonable individual will understand if you have a medical emergency/a better offer comes along/you aren't interested anymore, just communicate your intentions to the best that your situation allows like an adult.
"OMG you're threatening to sabotage applicants" For real? I'm pretty sure applicants have been blackballed for a lot less. Grow the fuck up.
(11-15-2020, 01:34 PM)Guest Wrote: (11-15-2020, 11:54 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-15-2020, 11:42 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-15-2020, 11:39 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-14-2020, 09:06 AM)a program director Wrote: There are a couple of thoughts on here about cancelling interviews: General rules:
Cancel as soon as you know as that only provides the institution an opportunity to give an interview position to someone on the waitlist
-interview slots are limited and the interviewers are giving up clinic/OR time to interview= money lost
-and people on the waitlist are anxious and have to plan, and would typically love your spot
note on trading- this is not allowed typically- you cancel, the institution then reaches out to the next in line. If you trade an interview date at the same place with someone confirmed to interview that is fine and the EPCs probably appreciate that.
RECOMMENDED:
do not cancel an interview less than 7 days prior to it.
Some of us program directors will send a email or note to the program director at your institution if this occurs as most believe this is not very professional.
of course if you have a family emergency, get sick, etc that is different and I would explain as much as you can to the program when you cancel probably within 14 days of the interview. I think if you are less than 7 days and cancel and simply say you are not interested in the program to the program that would probably avoid the communication back to your primary institution. Of course everyplace is different and different views on this but this is the general sense I get on these things.
Good luck to you all this year, there are a lot of amazing applicants this year.
"money lost"
Thank you for broadcasting your value system. Which program do you direct?
Lol, if you're looking for a program where neurosurgeons don't care about their money you're going to have a bad time.
Literally the first thing applicants are hearing from this is PD is "you better not cost me money." I'm not "looking" for anything and I call it as I see it. Enjoy your Kool-Aid.
(11-15-2020, 11:42 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-15-2020, 11:39 AM)Guest Wrote: (11-14-2020, 09:06 AM)a program director Wrote: There are a couple of thoughts on here about cancelling interviews: General rules:
Cancel as soon as you know as that only provides the institution an opportunity to give an interview position to someone on the waitlist
-interview slots are limited and the interviewers are giving up clinic/OR time to interview= money lost
-and people on the waitlist are anxious and have to plan, and would typically love your spot
note on trading- this is not allowed typically- you cancel, the institution then reaches out to the next in line. If you trade an interview date at the same place with someone confirmed to interview that is fine and the EPCs probably appreciate that.
RECOMMENDED:
do not cancel an interview less than 7 days prior to it.
Some of us program directors will send a email or note to the program director at your institution if this occurs as most believe this is not very professional.
of course if you have a family emergency, get sick, etc that is different and I would explain as much as you can to the program when you cancel probably within 14 days of the interview. I think if you are less than 7 days and cancel and simply say you are not interested in the program to the program that would probably avoid the communication back to your primary institution. Of course everyplace is different and different views on this but this is the general sense I get on these things.
Good luck to you all this year, there are a lot of amazing applicants this year.
"money lost"
Thank you for broadcasting your value system. Which program do you direct?
Lol, if you're looking for a program where neurosurgeons don't care about their money you're going to have a bad time.
Wow if that's not a damning condemnation of an entire specialty I dunno what is. Is that why you're applying too?
(11-14-2020, 09:06 AM)a program director Wrote: There are a couple of thoughts on here about cancelling interviews: General rules:
Cancel as soon as you know as that only provides the institution an opportunity to give an interview position to someone on the waitlist
-interview slots are limited and the interviewers are giving up clinic/OR time to interview= money lost
-and people on the waitlist are anxious and have to plan, and would typically love your spot
note on trading- this is not allowed typically- you cancel, the institution then reaches out to the next in line. If you trade an interview date at the same place with someone confirmed to interview that is fine and the EPCs probably appreciate that.
RECOMMENDED:
do not cancel an interview less than 7 days prior to it.
Some of us program directors will send a email or note to the program director at your institution if this occurs as most believe this is not very professional.
of course if you have a family emergency, get sick, etc that is different and I would explain as much as you can to the program when you cancel probably within 14 days of the interview. I think if you are less than 7 days and cancel and simply say you are not interested in the program to the program that would probably avoid the communication back to your primary institution. Of course everyplace is different and different views on this but this is the general sense I get on these things.
Good luck to you all this year, there are a lot of amazing applicants this year.
OMG you're threatening to sabotage applicants at home as retribution for inconveniencing you? MAJOR RED FLAGS AT THIS PROGRAM. Anyone know who this is?
You know when you reply multiple times we can see that they're all you, right?
If you can't cancel or reschedule an interview in an appropriate amount of time it means you're either unorganized, inconsiderate, self-centered, or all of the above. It's rude in any industry at any level.
And yes, i know it's shocking, but the primary motivation of department leadership throughout the country is money. It's all about their referral base, case loads, RVUs, salaries, compensation from industry, etc. Even the more academic ones, front and center in their minds are grants, promotions, the companies they're involved in. Mike Lawton doesn't drive a Toyota Camry.
You thinking that's a "condemnation" just shows you're a naive child and you have no idea what you're getting into. Genuinely hope you don't interview at my program.
Which is your program so I can withdraw my application?
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Which is your program so I can withdraw my application?
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To make it easy, why don't you tell them who you are, they can withdraw your app for you...pretty sure there are other programs who would also not want people like you in their programs.
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