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Match Day Weirdness
#21
(01-24-2021, 12:01 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 01:33 AM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:00 AM)Guest Wrote:
(01-23-2021, 11:09 PM)Guest Wrote: Yes, most are from brand name home programs, but the pandemic did not last four years and is not an excuse for why you were not able to make up for the shortcomings in your application and pursue a serious research program for the three other years you were in medical school. This is the case every year. Just because you came from a shitty school and had the opportunity to do a sub-i at Barrow in any normal year doesn't change the fact that you're still from a shitty school. We no longer live in a world when you can pick up and decide to match into neurosurgery the day after third year ends. This is obviously less relevant if you come from an institution with a track record of successfully matched applicants, but if you don't have that luxury, you will have to 1) work harder to prove your commitment to the field or 2) pick a different specialty. This fact is going to be amplified 1000-fold when Step 1 moves to P/F.

I bet you did not come from a shitty home program. Don’t make judgement so quick.

Why are you at a shitty home program. Poor mcat score/gpa? You’re upset that students at competitive Med schools have an advantage? They likely busted their ass much harder than you since the premed days.. hence why they got into a better Med school. for the youngins on these forums, strive for excellence day one. If you’re at a piss poor Med school and want to land a top nsgy program, it’s just that much more difficult
^ lol found the guy whose daddy paid for everything but he/she still thinks they made it on their own two feet! Pat yourself on the back homie, mommy and daddy are so proud of you! 

For those of us that live in reality, most well adjusted humans can realize medical school choice is much more than best scores go to more academic tiered programs, and as many have stated its usually family/financial based. A lot of the match process comes down to luck as well and PERSONALITY. You can be a monster applicant on paper from a high tier med school with big numbers/research, but if you are a twat you get black listed very quickly, happens every year. Plenty of great programs have residents that did not go to medical school at ivy leagues. 

But don't you worry, you don't need to listen to this forum my guy, daddy will make sure everything works out ok Smile

Who touched you guys in the wrong places? No one in this thread is arguing that students from smaller schools have to work harder to prove themselves, and likely become better surgeons for all the reasons cited above. They just need to accept the fact that the choice of your medical school comes at a cost. I am certain that there are applicants every year who probably had the option to attend a state school, but opted for the more expensive/brand name route because of the opportunities that would be afforded to them down the road.

And no, just because you went to HMS or Hopkins doesn't mean that "daddy paid for everything".
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#22
(01-24-2021, 12:32 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:01 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 01:33 AM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:00 AM)Guest Wrote:
(01-23-2021, 11:09 PM)Guest Wrote: Yes, most are from brand name home programs, but the pandemic did not last four years and is not an excuse for why you were not able to make up for the shortcomings in your application and pursue a serious research program for the three other years you were in medical school. This is the case every year. Just because you came from a shitty school and had the opportunity to do a sub-i at Barrow in any normal year doesn't change the fact that you're still from a shitty school. We no longer live in a world when you can pick up and decide to match into neurosurgery the day after third year ends. This is obviously less relevant if you come from an institution with a track record of successfully matched applicants, but if you don't have that luxury, you will have to 1) work harder to prove your commitment to the field or 2) pick a different specialty. This fact is going to be amplified 1000-fold when Step 1 moves to P/F.

I bet you did not come from a shitty home program. Don’t make judgement so quick.

Why are you at a shitty home program. Poor mcat score/gpa? You’re upset that students at competitive Med schools have an advantage? They likely busted their ass much harder than you since the premed days.. hence why they got into a better Med school. for the youngins on these forums, strive for excellence day one. If you’re at a piss poor Med school and want to land a top nsgy program, it’s just that much more difficult
^ lol found the guy whose daddy paid for everything but he/she still thinks they made it on their own two feet! Pat yourself on the back homie, mommy and daddy are so proud of you! 

For those of us that live in reality, most well adjusted humans can realize medical school choice is much more than best scores go to more academic tiered programs, and as many have stated its usually family/financial based. A lot of the match process comes down to luck as well and PERSONALITY. You can be a monster applicant on paper from a high tier med school with big numbers/research, but if you are a twat you get black listed very quickly, happens every year. Plenty of great programs have residents that did not go to medical school at ivy leagues. 

But don't you worry, you don't need to listen to this forum my guy, daddy will make sure everything works out ok Smile

Who touched you guys in the wrong places? No one in this thread is arguing that students from smaller schools have to work harder to prove themselves, and likely become better surgeons for all the reasons cited above. They just need to accept the fact that the choice of your medical school comes at a cost. I am certain that there are applicants every year who probably had the option to attend a state school, but opted for the more expensive/brand name route because of the opportunities that would be afforded to them down the road.

And no, just because you went to HMS or Hopkins doesn't mean that "daddy paid for everything".

Your level of ignorance is fascinating. I bet you have no other responsibilities...like families. Please stop! I hope programs do better job at screening people like this...can’t imagine working with this person.
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#23
(01-24-2021, 12:32 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:01 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 01:33 AM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:00 AM)Guest Wrote:
(01-23-2021, 11:09 PM)Guest Wrote: Yes, most are from brand name home programs, but the pandemic did not last four years and is not an excuse for why you were not able to make up for the shortcomings in your application and pursue a serious research program for the three other years you were in medical school. This is the case every year. Just because you came from a shitty school and had the opportunity to do a sub-i at Barrow in any normal year doesn't change the fact that you're still from a shitty school. We no longer live in a world when you can pick up and decide to match into neurosurgery the day after third year ends. This is obviously less relevant if you come from an institution with a track record of successfully matched applicants, but if you don't have that luxury, you will have to 1) work harder to prove your commitment to the field or 2) pick a different specialty. This fact is going to be amplified 1000-fold when Step 1 moves to P/F.

I bet you did not come from a shitty home program. Don’t make judgement so quick.

Why are you at a shitty home program. Poor mcat score/gpa? You’re upset that students at competitive Med schools have an advantage? They likely busted their ass much harder than you since the premed days.. hence why they got into a better Med school. for the youngins on these forums, strive for excellence day one. If you’re at a piss poor Med school and want to land a top nsgy program, it’s just that much more difficult
^ lol found the guy whose daddy paid for everything but he/she still thinks they made it on their own two feet! Pat yourself on the back homie, mommy and daddy are so proud of you! 

For those of us that live in reality, most well adjusted humans can realize medical school choice is much more than best scores go to more academic tiered programs, and as many have stated its usually family/financial based. A lot of the match process comes down to luck as well and PERSONALITY. You can be a monster applicant on paper from a high tier med school with big numbers/research, but if you are a twat you get black listed very quickly, happens every year. Plenty of great programs have residents that did not go to medical school at ivy leagues. 

But don't you worry, you don't need to listen to this forum my guy, daddy will make sure everything works out ok Smile

Who touched you guys in the wrong places? No one in this thread is arguing that students from smaller schools have to work harder to prove themselves, and likely become better surgeons for all the reasons cited above. They just need to accept the fact that the choice of your medical school comes at a cost. I am certain that there are applicants every year who probably had the option to attend a state school, but opted for the more expensive/brand name route because of the opportunities that would be afforded to them down the road.

And no, just because you went to HMS or Hopkins doesn't mean that "daddy paid for everything".

Dear HMS or Hopkins arrogant applicant,
This is not about you. If the shoe fits, wear it Smile
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#24
(01-24-2021, 01:44 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:32 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:01 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 01:33 AM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:00 AM)Guest Wrote: I bet you did not come from a shitty home program. Don’t make judgement so quick.

Why are you at a shitty home program. Poor mcat score/gpa? You’re upset that students at competitive Med schools have an advantage? They likely busted their ass much harder than you since the premed days.. hence why they got into a better Med school. for the youngins on these forums, strive for excellence day one. If you’re at a piss poor Med school and want to land a top nsgy program, it’s just that much more difficult
^ lol found the guy whose daddy paid for everything but he/she still thinks they made it on their own two feet! Pat yourself on the back homie, mommy and daddy are so proud of you! 

For those of us that live in reality, most well adjusted humans can realize medical school choice is much more than best scores go to more academic tiered programs, and as many have stated its usually family/financial based. A lot of the match process comes down to luck as well and PERSONALITY. You can be a monster applicant on paper from a high tier med school with big numbers/research, but if you are a twat you get black listed very quickly, happens every year. Plenty of great programs have residents that did not go to medical school at ivy leagues. 

But don't you worry, you don't need to listen to this forum my guy, daddy will make sure everything works out ok Smile

Who touched you guys in the wrong places? No one in this thread is arguing that students from smaller schools have to work harder to prove themselves, and likely become better surgeons for all the reasons cited above. They just need to accept the fact that the choice of your medical school comes at a cost. I am certain that there are applicants every year who probably had the option to attend a state school, but opted for the more expensive/brand name route because of the opportunities that would be afforded to them down the road.

And no, just because you went to HMS or Hopkins doesn't mean that "daddy paid for everything".

Dear HMS or Hopkins arrogant applicant,
This is not about you. If the shoe fits, wear it Smile

I’ll chime in here. I’m from a poor background, and had the (very difficult) choice to stay near family and pay very little in tuition, but chose to go to a top 5 Med school. I’d say for most other specialties, the cheaper option is the way to go. For nsgy, prestige and faculty names matter, and I have benefited greatly from it. Obviously tougher if you don’t know you want nsgy going into Med school like I did. Just don’t be upset years down the line when that 200k or so in debt you saved upfront cost you your “dream” residency down the line. Just My 2 cents
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#25
(01-24-2021, 12:36 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:32 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:01 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 01:33 AM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:00 AM)Guest Wrote: I bet you did not come from a shitty home program. Don’t make judgement so quick.

Why are you at a shitty home program. Poor mcat score/gpa? You’re upset that students at competitive Med schools have an advantage? They likely busted their ass much harder than you since the premed days.. hence why they got into a better Med school. for the youngins on these forums, strive for excellence day one. If you’re at a piss poor Med school and want to land a top nsgy program, it’s just that much more difficult
^ lol found the guy whose daddy paid for everything but he/she still thinks they made it on their own two feet! Pat yourself on the back homie, mommy and daddy are so proud of you! 

For those of us that live in reality, most well adjusted humans can realize medical school choice is much more than best scores go to more academic tiered programs, and as many have stated its usually family/financial based. A lot of the match process comes down to luck as well and PERSONALITY. You can be a monster applicant on paper from a high tier med school with big numbers/research, but if you are a twat you get black listed very quickly, happens every year. Plenty of great programs have residents that did not go to medical school at ivy leagues. 

But don't you worry, you don't need to listen to this forum my guy, daddy will make sure everything works out ok Smile

Who touched you guys in the wrong places? No one in this thread is arguing that students from smaller schools have to work harder to prove themselves, and likely become better surgeons for all the reasons cited above. They just need to accept the fact that the choice of your medical school comes at a cost. I am certain that there are applicants every year who probably had the option to attend a state school, but opted for the more expensive/brand name route because of the opportunities that would be afforded to them down the road.

And no, just because you went to HMS or Hopkins doesn't mean that "daddy paid for everything".

Your level of ignorance is fascinating. I bet you have no other responsibilities...like families. Please stop! I hope programs do better job at screening people like this...can’t imagine working with this person.

Trust me, the programs know.

Yo Hopkins applicant, you aren't impressing anyone here Smile

(01-24-2021, 02:35 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:36 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:32 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:01 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 01:33 AM)Guest Wrote: Why are you at a shitty home program. Poor mcat score/gpa? You’re upset that students at competitive Med schools have an advantage? They likely busted their ass much harder than you since the premed days.. hence why they got into a better Med school. for the youngins on these forums, strive for excellence day one. If you’re at a piss poor Med school and want to land a top nsgy program, it’s just that much more difficult
^ lol found the guy whose daddy paid for everything but he/she still thinks they made it on their own two feet! Pat yourself on the back homie, mommy and daddy are so proud of you! 

For those of us that live in reality, most well adjusted humans can realize medical school choice is much more than best scores go to more academic tiered programs, and as many have stated its usually family/financial based. A lot of the match process comes down to luck as well and PERSONALITY. You can be a monster applicant on paper from a high tier med school with big numbers/research, but if you are a twat you get black listed very quickly, happens every year. Plenty of great programs have residents that did not go to medical school at ivy leagues. 

But don't you worry, you don't need to listen to this forum my guy, daddy will make sure everything works out ok Smile

Who touched you guys in the wrong places? No one in this thread is arguing that students from smaller schools have to work harder to prove themselves, and likely become better surgeons for all the reasons cited above. They just need to accept the fact that the choice of your medical school comes at a cost. I am certain that there are applicants every year who probably had the option to attend a state school, but opted for the more expensive/brand name route because of the opportunities that would be afforded to them down the road.

And no, just because you went to HMS or Hopkins doesn't mean that "daddy paid for everything".

Your level of ignorance is fascinating. I bet you have no other responsibilities...like families. Please stop! I hope programs do better job at screening people like this...can’t imagine working with this person.

Trust me, the programs know.

Yo Hopkins applicant, you aren't impressing anyone here Smile

Its probably one of those 260-270 kids that think they know it all....Disappointing interview.
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#26
(01-24-2021, 02:35 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:36 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:32 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:01 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 01:33 AM)Guest Wrote: Why are you at a shitty home program. Poor mcat score/gpa? You’re upset that students at competitive Med schools have an advantage? They likely busted their ass much harder than you since the premed days.. hence why they got into a better Med school. for the youngins on these forums, strive for excellence day one. If you’re at a piss poor Med school and want to land a top nsgy program, it’s just that much more difficult
^ lol found the guy whose daddy paid for everything but he/she still thinks they made it on their own two feet! Pat yourself on the back homie, mommy and daddy are so proud of you! 

For those of us that live in reality, most well adjusted humans can realize medical school choice is much more than best scores go to more academic tiered programs, and as many have stated its usually family/financial based. A lot of the match process comes down to luck as well and PERSONALITY. You can be a monster applicant on paper from a high tier med school with big numbers/research, but if you are a twat you get black listed very quickly, happens every year. Plenty of great programs have residents that did not go to medical school at ivy leagues. 

But don't you worry, you don't need to listen to this forum my guy, daddy will make sure everything works out ok Smile

Who touched you guys in the wrong places? No one in this thread is arguing that students from smaller schools have to work harder to prove themselves, and likely become better surgeons for all the reasons cited above. They just need to accept the fact that the choice of your medical school comes at a cost. I am certain that there are applicants every year who probably had the option to attend a state school, but opted for the more expensive/brand name route because of the opportunities that would be afforded to them down the road.

And no, just because you went to HMS or Hopkins doesn't mean that "daddy paid for everything".

Your level of ignorance is fascinating. I bet you have no other responsibilities...like families. Please stop! I hope programs do better job at screening people like this...can’t imagine working with this person.

Trust me, the programs know.

Yo Hopkins applicant, you aren't impressing anyone here Smile

(01-24-2021, 02:35 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:36 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:32 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:01 PM)Guest Wrote: ^ lol found the guy whose daddy paid for everything but he/she still thinks they made it on their own two feet! Pat yourself on the back homie, mommy and daddy are so proud of you! 

For those of us that live in reality, most well adjusted humans can realize medical school choice is much more than best scores go to more academic tiered programs, and as many have stated its usually family/financial based. A lot of the match process comes down to luck as well and PERSONALITY. You can be a monster applicant on paper from a high tier med school with big numbers/research, but if you are a twat you get black listed very quickly, happens every year. Plenty of great programs have residents that did not go to medical school at ivy leagues. 

But don't you worry, you don't need to listen to this forum my guy, daddy will make sure everything works out ok Smile

Who touched you guys in the wrong places? No one in this thread is arguing that students from smaller schools have to work harder to prove themselves, and likely become better surgeons for all the reasons cited above. They just need to accept the fact that the choice of your medical school comes at a cost. I am certain that there are applicants every year who probably had the option to attend a state school, but opted for the more expensive/brand name route because of the opportunities that would be afforded to them down the road.

And no, just because you went to HMS or Hopkins doesn't mean that "daddy paid for everything".

Your level of ignorance is fascinating. I bet you have no other responsibilities...like families. Please stop! I hope programs do better job at screening people like this...can’t imagine working with this person.

Trust me, the programs know.

Yo Hopkins applicant, you aren't impressing anyone here Smile

Its probably one of those 260-270 kids that think they know it all....Disappointing interview.

lol what?
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#27
(01-24-2021, 02:17 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 01:44 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:32 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:01 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 01:33 AM)Guest Wrote: Why are you at a shitty home program. Poor mcat score/gpa? You’re upset that students at competitive Med schools have an advantage? They likely busted their ass much harder than you since the premed days.. hence why they got into a better Med school. for the youngins on these forums, strive for excellence day one. If you’re at a piss poor Med school and want to land a top nsgy program, it’s just that much more difficult
^ lol found the guy whose daddy paid for everything but he/she still thinks they made it on their own two feet! Pat yourself on the back homie, mommy and daddy are so proud of you! 

For those of us that live in reality, most well adjusted humans can realize medical school choice is much more than best scores go to more academic tiered programs, and as many have stated its usually family/financial based. A lot of the match process comes down to luck as well and PERSONALITY. You can be a monster applicant on paper from a high tier med school with big numbers/research, but if you are a twat you get black listed very quickly, happens every year. Plenty of great programs have residents that did not go to medical school at ivy leagues. 

But don't you worry, you don't need to listen to this forum my guy, daddy will make sure everything works out ok Smile

Who touched you guys in the wrong places? No one in this thread is arguing that students from smaller schools have to work harder to prove themselves, and likely become better surgeons for all the reasons cited above. They just need to accept the fact that the choice of your medical school comes at a cost. I am certain that there are applicants every year who probably had the option to attend a state school, but opted for the more expensive/brand name route because of the opportunities that would be afforded to them down the road.

And no, just because you went to HMS or Hopkins doesn't mean that "daddy paid for everything".

Dear HMS or Hopkins arrogant applicant,
This is not about you. If the shoe fits, wear it Smile

I’ll chime in here. I’m from a poor background, and had the (very difficult) choice to stay near family and pay very little in tuition, but chose to go to a top 5 Med school. I’d say for most other specialties, the cheaper option is the way to go. For nsgy, prestige and faculty names matter, and I have benefited greatly from it. Obviously tougher if you don’t know you want nsgy going into Med school like I did. Just don’t be upset years down the line when that 200k or so in debt you saved upfront cost you your “dream” residency down the line. Just My 2 cents

^ 100% this. I took the less debt option and I saw how my classmates and I had to work harder to get our feet in the door, but that's what we chose. I don't think any of us regretted it. It's just the reality of the situation. Nowadays, it seems like most elite med schools are free or heavily subsidized so hopefully this stops being an issue. Same is true for a lot of elite undergrads. I think this problem is slowly on its way out.

That being said, there are tons of great programs out there that aren't necessarily brand names and the biggest factor in your success is you, so I wouldn't get too caught up in it. The important thing is to keep the chip on your shoulder and use it as motivation to be the best you can be
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#28
(01-24-2021, 03:25 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 02:17 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 01:44 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:32 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:01 PM)Guest Wrote: ^ lol found the guy whose daddy paid for everything but he/she still thinks they made it on their own two feet! Pat yourself on the back homie, mommy and daddy are so proud of you! 

For those of us that live in reality, most well adjusted humans can realize medical school choice is much more than best scores go to more academic tiered programs, and as many have stated its usually family/financial based. A lot of the match process comes down to luck as well and PERSONALITY. You can be a monster applicant on paper from a high tier med school with big numbers/research, but if you are a twat you get black listed very quickly, happens every year. Plenty of great programs have residents that did not go to medical school at ivy leagues. 

But don't you worry, you don't need to listen to this forum my guy, daddy will make sure everything works out ok Smile

Who touched you guys in the wrong places? No one in this thread is arguing that students from smaller schools have to work harder to prove themselves, and likely become better surgeons for all the reasons cited above. They just need to accept the fact that the choice of your medical school comes at a cost. I am certain that there are applicants every year who probably had the option to attend a state school, but opted for the more expensive/brand name route because of the opportunities that would be afforded to them down the road.

And no, just because you went to HMS or Hopkins doesn't mean that "daddy paid for everything".

Dear HMS or Hopkins arrogant applicant,
This is not about you. If the shoe fits, wear it Smile

I’ll chime in here. I’m from a poor background, and had the (very difficult) choice to stay near family and pay very little in tuition, but chose to go to a top 5 Med school. I’d say for most other specialties, the cheaper option is the way to go. For nsgy, prestige and faculty names matter, and I have benefited greatly from it. Obviously tougher if you don’t know you want nsgy going into Med school like I did. Just don’t be upset years down the line when that 200k or so in debt you saved upfront cost you your “dream” residency down the line. Just My 2 cents

^ 100% this. I took the less debt option and I saw how my classmates and I had to work harder to get our feet in the door, but that's what we chose. I don't think any of us regretted it. It's just the reality of the situation. Nowadays, it seems like most elite med schools are free or heavily subsidized so hopefully this stops being an issue. Same is true for a lot of elite undergrads. I think this problem is slowly on its way out.

That being said, there are tons of great programs out there that aren't necessarily brand names and the biggest factor in your success is you, so I wouldn't get too caught up in it. The important thing is to keep the chip on your shoulder and use it as motivation to be the best you can be

Also agree. I came from basically nothing (I actually got QuestBridge for college, which used to have a requirement of 150% above the poverty line for a family of 4) and ended up extremely fortunate to go to a top med school (albeit with 300K of debt). While there are definitely well-off students here, one of the biggest surprises for me was how many people are from lower-middle class backgrounds. I obviously feel extremely grateful to be here and never felt that I was out of place just because my family didn't have money. A lot of top med schools are placing a big emphasis on diversity (including SES). We have quite a few older students with kids as well.
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#29
(01-24-2021, 03:50 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 03:25 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 02:17 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 01:44 PM)Guest Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 12:32 PM)Guest Wrote: Who touched you guys in the wrong places? No one in this thread is arguing that students from smaller schools have to work harder to prove themselves, and likely become better surgeons for all the reasons cited above. They just need to accept the fact that the choice of your medical school comes at a cost. I am certain that there are applicants every year who probably had the option to attend a state school, but opted for the more expensive/brand name route because of the opportunities that would be afforded to them down the road.

And no, just because you went to HMS or Hopkins doesn't mean that "daddy paid for everything".

Dear HMS or Hopkins arrogant applicant,
This is not about you. If the shoe fits, wear it :)

I’ll chime in here. I’m from a poor background, and had the (very difficult) choice to stay near family and pay very little in tuition, but chose to go to a top 5 Med school. I’d say for most other specialties, the cheaper option is the way to go. For nsgy, prestige and faculty names matter, and I have benefited greatly from it. Obviously tougher if you don’t know you want nsgy going into Med school like I did. Just don’t be upset years down the line when that 200k or so in debt you saved upfront cost you your “dream” residency down the line. Just My 2 cents

^ 100% this. I took the less debt option and I saw how my classmates and I had to work harder to get our feet in the door, but that's what we chose. I don't think any of us regretted it. It's just the reality of the situation. Nowadays, it seems like most elite med schools are free or heavily subsidized so hopefully this stops being an issue. Same is true for a lot of elite undergrads. I think this problem is slowly on its way out.

That being said, there are tons of great programs out there that aren't necessarily brand names and the biggest factor in your success is you, so I wouldn't get too caught up in it. The important thing is to keep the chip on your shoulder and use it as motivation to be the best you can be

Also agree. I came from basically nothing (I actually got QuestBridge for college, which used to have a requirement of 150% above the poverty line for a family of 4) and ended up extremely fortunate to go to a top med school (albeit with 300K of debt). While there are definitely well-off students here, one of the biggest surprises for me was how many people are from lower-middle class backgrounds. I obviously feel extremely grateful to be here and never felt that I was out of place just because my family didn't have money. A lot of top med schools are placing a big emphasis on diversity (including SES). We have quite a few older students with kids as well.
There are so many other reasons why people chose to go to non-top med schools...just because you end up at better med schools with more publications do not mean you work harder and the ones at non top med schools with less publications do not is the point here.
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Agreed, but there are 100+ nsgy programs in the US that place people into academics and academic fellowships so the argument is stupid on its face.

Just match somewhere. Almost every program is good. Then work hard and put everything into achieving your goals. Happiness and success are things we define for ourselves and when you tell ppl at your high school reunion you're a neurosurgeon, they're not going to follow-up with where you went to residency. They'll probably still think you're a nerd. They probably haven't thought about you once since you were 18.

If you're doing nsgy to achieve your dream of going to Harvard, good luck
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