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Harvard Neurologist vs bottom-tier NS: What is more prestigious?
#1
What would you guys say is more prestigious:

Someone who graduated from HMS, went to neurology residency at MGH, then did fellowship at MSK, Mayo or something, and who works in a top academic center. 

OR

Someone who graduated from a DO school, went to shit-tier residency (the type of residencies people who frequent this forum attend), and who works in a PP setting (assuming he is honest and doesn't cheat)

Who do you think would gain more prestige in the broader world? 

Is neurosurgery the most prestigious job you can get, regardless of background??
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#2
(10-06-2021, 04:26 PM)Prestige matters Wrote: What would you guys say is more prestigious:

Someone who graduated from HMS, went to neurology residency at MGH, then did fellowship at MSK, Mayo or something, and who works in a top academic center. 

OR

Someone who graduated from a DO school, went to shit-tier residency (the type of residencies people who frequent this forum attend), and who works in a PP setting (assuming he is honest and doesn't cheat)

Who do you think would gain more prestige in the broader world? 

Is neurosurgery the most prestigious job you can get, regardless of background??

Depends on your peer group I suppose. Among academics the neurologist, but in the general lay community it may be more variable.
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#3
(10-06-2021, 05:07 PM)Focus Wrote:
(10-06-2021, 04:26 PM)Prestige matters Wrote: What would you guys say is more prestigious:

Someone who graduated from HMS, went to neurology residency at MGH, then did fellowship at MSK, Mayo or something, and who works in a top academic center. 

OR

Someone who graduated from a DO school, went to shit-tier residency (the type of residencies people who frequent this forum attend), and who works in a PP setting (assuming he is honest and doesn't cheat)

Who do you think would gain more prestige in the broader world? 

Is neurosurgery the most prestigious job you can get, regardless of background??

Depends on your peer group I suppose. Among academics the neurologist, but in the general lay community it may be more variable.

Why would the neurologist get more prestige? Amongst my med school classmates and faculty, the neurosurgeon matches get talked about the most.

I'm very surprised, neurology is very easy to get into, a dumping ground for bottom-tier candidates in many instances. I would think that NS is the most prestigious profession, is that not the case?
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#4
What is the actual point of this comparison? And there are many brilliant 260+ applicants that go into neurology because newsflash they love the brain and diagnostic reasoning but NOT surgery.
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#5
(10-06-2021, 05:36 PM)Guest Wrote:
(10-06-2021, 05:07 PM)Focus Wrote:
(10-06-2021, 04:26 PM)Prestige matters Wrote: What would you guys say is more prestigious:

Someone who graduated from HMS, went to neurology residency at MGH, then did fellowship at MSK, Mayo or something, and who works in a top academic center. 

OR

Someone who graduated from a DO school, went to shit-tier residency (the type of residencies people who frequent this forum attend), and who works in a PP setting (assuming he is honest and doesn't cheat)

Who do you think would gain more prestige in the broader world? 

Is neurosurgery the most prestigious job you can get, regardless of background??

Depends on your peer group I suppose. Among academics the neurologist, but in the general lay community it may be more variable.

Why would the neurologist get more prestige? Amongst my med school classmates and faculty, the neurosurgeon matches get talked about the most.

I'm very surprised, neurology is very easy to get into, a dumping ground for bottom-tier candidates in many instances. I would think that NS is the most prestigious profession, is that not the case?

There is no one specialty or job that is universally the most prestigious to all people.
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#6
(10-06-2021, 05:59 PM)Focus Wrote:
(10-06-2021, 05:36 PM)Guest Wrote:
(10-06-2021, 05:07 PM)Focus Wrote:
(10-06-2021, 04:26 PM)Prestige matters Wrote: What would you guys say is more prestigious:

Someone who graduated from HMS, went to neurology residency at MGH, then did fellowship at MSK, Mayo or something, and who works in a top academic center. 

OR

Someone who graduated from a DO school, went to shit-tier residency (the type of residencies people who frequent this forum attend), and who works in a PP setting (assuming he is honest and doesn't cheat)

Who do you think would gain more prestige in the broader world? 

Is neurosurgery the most prestigious job you can get, regardless of background??

Depends on your peer group I suppose. Among academics the neurologist, but in the general lay community it may be more variable.

Why would the neurologist get more prestige? Amongst my med school classmates and faculty, the neurosurgeon matches get talked about the most.

I'm very surprised, neurology is very easy to get into, a dumping ground for bottom-tier candidates in many instances. I would think that NS is the most prestigious profession, is that not the case?

There is no one specialty or job that is universally the most prestigious to all people.

I mean like overall. Obviously, things like political leaders, CEOs and top lawyers are more prestigious. But NS is the most prestigious profession attainable for average-intelligence people, as I understand. Or am I wrong?
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#7
Just stop.
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#8
(10-06-2021, 07:06 PM)Guest Wrote:
(10-06-2021, 05:59 PM)Focus Wrote:
(10-06-2021, 05:36 PM)Guest Wrote:
(10-06-2021, 05:07 PM)Focus Wrote:
(10-06-2021, 04:26 PM)Prestige matters Wrote: What would you guys say is more prestigious:

Someone who graduated from HMS, went to neurology residency at MGH, then did fellowship at MSK, Mayo or something, and who works in a top academic center. 

OR

Someone who graduated from a DO school, went to shit-tier residency (the type of residencies people who frequent this forum attend), and who works in a PP setting (assuming he is honest and doesn't cheat)

Who do you think would gain more prestige in the broader world? 

Is neurosurgery the most prestigious job you can get, regardless of background??

Depends on your peer group I suppose. Among academics the neurologist, but in the general lay community it may be more variable.

Why would the neurologist get more prestige? Amongst my med school classmates and faculty, the neurosurgeon matches get talked about the most.

I'm very surprised, neurology is very easy to get into, a dumping ground for bottom-tier candidates in many instances. I would think that NS is the most prestigious profession, is that not the case?

There is no one specialty or job that is universally the most prestigious to all people.

I mean like overall. Obviously, things like political leaders, CEOs and top lawyers are more prestigious. But NS is the most prestigious profession attainable for average-intelligence people, as I understand. Or am I wrong?

You are both wrong on the account of it being the most prestigious profession and also that it is routinely obtainable for average intelligence people. Neurosurgery is too small a niche to have such an impact. The closest we might come is being lumped into the general prestige of "doctor".
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#9
(10-07-2021, 09:09 AM)Focus Wrote:
(10-06-2021, 07:06 PM)Guest Wrote:
(10-06-2021, 05:59 PM)Focus Wrote:
(10-06-2021, 05:36 PM)Guest Wrote:
(10-06-2021, 05:07 PM)Focus Wrote: Depends on your peer group I suppose. Among academics the neurologist, but in the general lay community it may be more variable.

Why would the neurologist get more prestige? Amongst my med school classmates and faculty, the neurosurgeon matches get talked about the most.

I'm very surprised, neurology is very easy to get into, a dumping ground for bottom-tier candidates in many instances. I would think that NS is the most prestigious profession, is that not the case?

There is no one specialty or job that is universally the most prestigious to all people.

I mean like overall. Obviously, things like political leaders, CEOs and top lawyers are more prestigious. But NS is the most prestigious profession attainable for average-intelligence people, as I understand. Or am I wrong?

You are both wrong on the account of it being the most prestigious profession and also that it is routinely obtainable for average intelligence people. Neurosurgery is too small a niche to have such an impact. The closest we might come is being lumped into the general prestige of "doctor".

How smart do you have to be? I score roughly in top 25% of my class, but I go to a shit tier school. I scored well into upper 90% on MCAT however. 

I've never met a NS in real life. I plan to meet one soon to work in his lab. By doing clinical NS research, I can try to gauge whether or not I am smart enough.
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#10
Walk into any hospital and I guarantee you the smartest doctor there is not a neurosurgeon. You've badly missed the point if you think prestige = smart. or if you think the gateway into neurosurgery is intelligence. Pay attention to this forum even a little bit and you'll understand that.
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