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Chairs Shuffling
Make no mistake - and this is true for many programs, not just UCSF. They don’t ‘get their top picks,’ they get their top picks of the very small group of people who write them love letters. UCSF is known to only rank people highly who confirm that they’re ranking UCSF #1. It’s not just narcissism (though that may play a role), it’s also just that it’s important for them to know that people want to be there so they don’t end up dropping out.

So there are typically about 10 applicants who write love letters and rank these strong programs #1. Maybe a little more or less. They probably had like 30 subinterns and 40 interviewees. So that means that even among applicants who chose to do their only away rotation at UCSF, most don’t want to go there, regardless of whether or not UCSF wants them.

The point is, UCSF matches their top 3 ranks, but that’s only after most of their interviewees and even subinterns effectively rejected UCSF.
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(03-06-2022, 02:23 AM)Guest Wrote: Make no mistake - and this is true for many programs, not just UCSF. They don’t ‘get their top picks,’ they get their top picks of the very small group of people who write them love letters. UCSF is known to only rank people highly who confirm that they’re ranking UCSF #1. It’s not just narcissism (though that may play a role), it’s also just that it’s important for them to know that people want to be there so they don’t end up dropping out.

So there are typically about 10 applicants who write love letters and rank these strong programs #1. Maybe a little more or less. They probably had like 30 subinterns and 40 interviewees. So that means that even among applicants who chose to do their only away rotation at UCSF, most don’t want to go there, regardless of whether or not UCSF wants them.

The point is, UCSF matches their top 3 ranks, but that’s only after most of their interviewees and even subinterns effectively rejected UCSF.

This comes back to the point that there’s no overall top program, just a collection of great places that appeal to different people, both for residency and as faculty
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(03-05-2022, 06:24 PM)Guest Wrote:
(03-05-2022, 06:04 PM)I Guest Wrote:
(02-27-2022, 11:33 PM)Guest Wrote:
(02-25-2022, 07:15 PM)Guest Wrote: whats going on at UCSF?
McDermott, Larson, Dhall, and now Chou left. who's next?

UCSF made a fatal error for the residency program by letting chou leave.

They didn’t ‘let’ him leave, it wasn’t up to them. Seems like UCSF is quickly dying

at least one more faculty slated to leave soon.

UCSF resident.
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Rest assured, Eddie Chang will replace those who depart with even higher tier faculty.
That place is on an amazingly upward trajectory.
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(03-06-2022, 08:42 PM)Guest Wrote: Rest assured, Eddie Chang will replace those who depart with even higher tier faculty.
That place is on an amazingly upward trajectory.

he will replace them with junior faculty who cost less. thats the UCSF way. who did he replace Larson and Dhall with?
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(03-06-2022, 08:42 PM)Guest Wrote: Rest assured, Eddie Chang will replace those who depart with even higher tier faculty.
That place is on an amazingly upward trajectory.

You’re literally delusional, and/or a kiss-ass applicant who’s desperate to get in there
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Is it confirmed that Chou is leaving? Where is he going? What about future fellows who have committed?
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(03-07-2022, 09:54 AM)Guest Wrote: Is it confirmed that Chou is leaving? Where is he going? What about future fellows who have committed?

This is the nail-biting part about fellowship. You commit years ahead of time and hope that faculty movement or other events (e.g., COVID) don't burn your training. Yet another reason that fellowship shouldn't be the place that you learn to operate - only a stop to get your ticket punched on your way into academics.
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(03-07-2022, 09:54 AM)Guest Wrote: Is it confirmed that Chou is leaving? Where is he going? What about future fellows who have committed?

Columbia
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(03-07-2022, 09:54 AM)Guest Wrote: Is it confirmed that Chou is leaving? Where is he going? What about future fellows who have committed?

fellowship continues at UCSF
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