Nsg applicant town hall

[Guest]

(05-03-2020, 04:22 PM)Guest Wrote:

(05-03-2020, 11:57 AM)Guest Wrote: So seem like current agreement now is: do subI as your own risk WITHOUT letter after and general surgery rotation for general surgery letter? This is like stress...after stress after stress from COVID.

I'm the resident who posted above. Again, where is the risk? You can choose to add or completely ignore any and all letters that are uploaded within ERAS. If you don't feel comfortable doing a Sub-I and not asking for a letter, then request one and just don't assign it to any programs except for the place you rotated. You don't have to advertise that you rotated somewhere.

For me personally if I do a subI it shows up on my transcript. That's one way that people would know I did a subI

[Guest]

Senior resident here. Its pretty petty and ridiculous to "hold it against" med students who end up doing sub I's with so many current dissenting opinions.

Every med student is simply working with the best advise they have and in this situation the advise is clearly not unanimous. If their mentor happens to be someone who doesn't agree with the SNS they are going to be pushed to do a sub I and they shouldn't be held against them. I would hope that those interview this season would be smart enough to understand.

No need to put the kids in the middle when mommy and daddy are fighting.

[Guest]

And how are we supposed to explain a month on our transcript that has no explanation for what we were doing? Get our schools to "cover" for us? This is such a ridiculous situation, really let down by the neurosurgery leadership

[Guest]

All any other program has to do is ask you to your face did you do an away? What are you going to do lie?

[Guest]

The most practical solution is for all programs, including those that don’t agree, to follow the guidelines since they were announced to 300+ potential applicants.

Then, the programs that don’t agree can take it up with SNS behind closed doors and figure out if all programs were surveyed, and if not, why this didn’t happen, etc.

This eliminates confusion and doesn’t penalize students for being caught in the middle of a disagreement at the national level.

[Guest]

(05-03-2020, 05:41 PM)Guest Wrote: The most practical solution is for all programs, including those that don’t agree, to follow the guidelines since they were announced to 300+ potential applicants.

Then, the programs that don’t agree can take it up with SNS behind closed doors and figure out if all programs were surveyed, and if not, why this didn’t happen, etc.

This eliminates confusion and doesn’t penalize students for being caught in the middle of a disagreement at the national level.

At the very least, programs need to be open about their policies so students don't ruin their chances by contacting places that are taking these guidelines seriously

[Guest]

(05-03-2020, 05:59 PM)Guest Wrote:

(05-03-2020, 05:41 PM)Guest Wrote: The most practical solution is for all programs, including those that don’t agree, to follow the guidelines since they were announced to 300+ potential applicants.

Then, the programs that don’t agree can take it up with SNS behind closed doors and figure out if all programs were surveyed, and if not, why this didn’t happen, etc.

This eliminates confusion and doesn’t penalize students for being caught in the middle of a disagreement at the national level.

At the very least, programs need to be open about their policies so students don't ruin their chances by contacting places that are taking these guidelines seriously

And get rid of the gen surg letter requirement

[Guest]

(05-03-2020, 06:05 PM)Guest Wrote:

(05-03-2020, 05:59 PM)Guest Wrote:

(05-03-2020, 05:41 PM)Guest Wrote: The most practical solution is for all programs, including those that don’t agree, to follow the guidelines since they were announced to 300+ potential applicants.

Then, the programs that don’t agree can take it up with SNS behind closed doors and figure out if all programs were surveyed, and if not, why this didn’t happen, etc.

This eliminates confusion and doesn’t penalize students for being caught in the middle of a disagreement at the national level.

At the very least, programs need to be open about their policies so students don't ruin their chances by contacting places that are taking these guidelines seriously

And get rid of the gen surg letter requirement

I agree...I am not sure if I should schedule general surgery rotation or wait for subI situation? I don’t want to schedule general surgery and one of the places I want to do subI take subI then have to cancel. Way to piss off general surgery.

[Guest]

(05-03-2020, 04:33 PM)Guest Wrote: Senior resident here. Its pretty petty and ridiculous to "hold it against" med students who end up doing sub I's with so many current dissenting opinions.

Every med student is simply working with the best advise they have and in this situation the advise is clearly not unanimous. If their mentor happens to be someone who doesn't agree with the SNS they are going to be pushed to do a sub I and they shouldn't be held against them. I would hope that those interview this season would be smart enough to understand.

No need to put the kids in the middle when mommy and daddy are fighting.

What “dissenting opinions” are you talking about? No one has made their recommendations public besides what was posted by the SNS. NU’s chair speaking up would be bold but given that four ppl from his department were on the call last week he just comes off as clueless

[Guest]

What an absolute shit show. I feel really sorry for you guys.